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Here in this post we have a sequel to YOU WANT TO DEBATE A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT?, a response to OPPOSING EVIL by Ben Berwick, of the United Kingdom.

The debate got started when I commented on Berwick’s post, and that comment grew into a string of comments. We eventually got frustrated. I insisted Berwick stick to the topic of his post, and Berwick insisted that I defend the Tories from his attacks. The Tories are the epitome of evil, supposedly.

What crime have the Tories committed? They are trying to regulate immigration.

PM Rishi Sunak has made dealing with immigrants arriving by small boats one of his government’s top priorities. At a time when our bills are rising and Tories are getting rich off the back of poverty, is this really the electorate’s main concern? Of course not. However, the Tories (and their mates in the right-wing media) will scream and shout about immigrants, as they so often do, to avoid facing responsibility for their numerous shortcomings, and to distract people from their shortcomings.

continued => OPPOSING EVIL

Next thing I know is Berwick wrote post defending himself, WHERE I STAND… TAXATION AND WEALTH. What was he I upset about? I pointed out he is essentially a Socialist.

Because I rail against the Tories, and the culture of greed they embody so readily, I am called a socialist. I dare say that some of the people throwing this label at me A: conflate socialism with communism, B: don’t fully understand socialism, and C: are misrepresenting my argument.


Where did Berwick get the idea that I think he is a Socialist?

You are trying to use your supposedly noble ends to justify the means. So, you used a video that misrepresents both immigrants and your opposition. On top of that you argue that the only possible solution is the one you demand, and opposing your noble solution is the vilest extremism.

Even though you are using the end to justify the means, you ignore the fact that your solution risks creating more harm that it is supposed to fix. Redistribution of the wealth is essence of Socialism. Socialism never works, never has worked. When Socialism is implemented without violence, it takes more time to corrupt a government, but the ideology of Socialism will corrupt any government.

Berwick does not understand the old proverb about letting a camel’s nose under the tent. Berwick wants to invite foreigners into his country so he can use the government to take money from his fellow citizens (tax them) and spend it on those foreigners. If that is not an abuse the United Kingdom’s taxation system, what is? If redistributing the wealth of a nation so cavalierly is not Socialism, what is?

Look at our own southern border. We have millions of illegal immigrants entering our country pretending to be victims escaping persecution. Everyone knows that is a lie, that these people are just looking for better jobs, but our government still refuses to stop these illegal immigrants. Instead, our government spends thousands of taxpayer dollars on these so-called refugees. If that abuse of our taxation system is not stealing, what is?

So, if Berwick and I are just talking pass each other, what was the point of our ping pong comments and posts. If we are going to live in a free country, we must be able to have a dialogue where we can exchange our ideas and work out our differences. Berwick and I are trying to do that, but we are running into a problem in logic. Instead of examining the ideas of his opponents, Berwick is engaging in ad hominem, a logical fallacy.

Why would anyone engage in ad hominem? There is no single, simple answer, but children do it almost reflexively. When Mommie won’t give little Johnnie what he wants, what does little Johnnie say? “Mommie is a bad Mommie. Mommie does not love me.”

We should learn as children that just because we want something to be true doesn’t make it true. Unfortunately, that doesn’t stop some people from listening to leaders who make promises they cannot keep.

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