TRUMP’S SUPPORTERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ASHAMED?

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From time to time someone tells me how awful I am because I have dared to support Donald Trump. No doubt that is the experience of many of Trump’s supporters. How should we react? Should Trump’s supporters take Trump’s detractors seriously? Should we admit our guilt and hang our heads in shame, or should we consider the possibility that Trump’s detractors cannot tolerate a difference of opinion?

Was the attack on the Capitol Building the beginning of campaign to shame Trump’s supporters? No? Then why has the attack on the Capitol Building become such a big deal? What makes the attack on the Capitol Building unique? Well, if we stop to think about it, what makes the attack on the Capitol unique also makes it a funny thing to use to attack Trump. Compare the attack on the Capitol with all the other accusations against Trump. The attack on the Capitol Building is one of the very few “crimes” that Trump’s critics can actually “prove” happened. The critics cannot prove that Trump had anything to do with the attack on the Capitol, the crime they claim he committed, but they can prove that some people attacked the Capitol. Since all they are doing is spewing propaganda that’s real progress for Trump’s critics.

Did Donald Trump have anything to do with the attack on the Capitol Building? No.

If Trump is not guilty of anything, then why should we take his critics seriously? Unfortunately, Trump’s critics are loud, persistent, angry bullies. These angry bullies have control of the government, Big Tech, our schools and universities, and the mass media. These bullies invented the “cancel culture,” and they now have most of the tools they need to “cancel” their opponents, to render their opponents silent, jobless, and friendless. Moreover, Trump’s critics have demonstrated their willingness to use their tools to “cancel” their opponents.

Should we resist Trump’s critics and stand our ground? Why? Well, consider this column.

We are now officially less than two weeks into the Biden administration, and our new president has a list of “accomplishments” as long as your arm of which he can boast.   

Bragging points include:

The degrading of women by telling them they no longer have the right to their own dignity, their own identity or even their own sports; The denial of science by appointing a man who doesn’t even believe in the science of anatomy to be our nation’s assistant secretary of health; The execution of our country’s youngest babies by celebrating the left’s genocidal desire to kill these children just minutes before they are born; The escalation of racism by embracing critical race theory’s (CRT’s) racist manipulation of race; The destruction of our nation by destroying its borders (For what nation can exist if it no longer has any borders to define its existence?);

The return to the insanity of making us dependent on our enemies for the fuel needed to heat our homes, move our cars, and run our military; The evisceration of our economy by telling people the way for them to have more money is for the government to print it rather than let them work for it; And the theft of our religious freedom by forcing all of us to bow to the godawful religion of government as God.  

Evangelicals ridiculously asked to apologize for supporting Trump – Washington Times

Piper goes on to express his disappointment that too many of our nation’s evangelical leaders have not stood their ground. Why would some of our nation’s evangelical leaders fail to stand their ground? There are at least a couple of reasons.

  • Some have forgotten why they supported Trump. They forget that they did not support the man. They stood with him because they supported the ideals that Trump chose to stand and defend.
  • Some have forgotten the price of cowardice.

William Shakespeare put it this way.

“Cowards die many times before their deaths;
The valiant never taste of death but once.
Of all the wonders that I yet have heard,
It seems to me most strange that men should fear;
Seeing that death, a necessary end,
Will come when it will come.”

― William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar

Jesus put it this way.

Luke 9:23-26 New American Standard Bible

23 And He was saying to them all, “If anyone wants to come after Me, he must deny himself, take up his cross daily, and follow Me. 24 For whoever wants to save his [a]life will lose it, but whoever loses his [b]life for My sake, this is the one who will save it. 25 For what good does it do a person if he gains the whole world, but loses or forfeits himself? 26 For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in His glory and the glory of the Father and the holy angels.

When our government demands from us what belongs to God, we must resist. What has Biden done that we must resist? Well, to start with Biden has issued at least 42 executive orders. Not all of them are awful, but some are.

Instead of trying to defend ourselves, we must start looking at Biden’s executive orders and the legislation that Liberal Democrats want. Then we must compare what Liberal Democrats are doing and want with what the Constitution and our consciences permit. Then we must decide. Will we stand in defense of our beliefs? Will we ask God for the wisdom to fight well, or will we give up?

24 thoughts on “TRUMP’S SUPPORTERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ASHAMED?

  1. Because Obama was a Democrat he will always be a failure, right?

    I have been a currency trader for many years and there is no such thing as a currency holding steady or happy investors for very long.

    As we say “only in America”

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    1. @sklyjd

      Your reply to Scatterwisdom was kind of funny.

      Trump did nothing for us in Australia, and most will agree “fastest time frame in medical history” is a joke and would be an absolute lie and basically he did very little to combat the virus to save lives in the US, his recent concern about the vaccination was way too late to save his orange neck.

      Trump arranged for Americans, not Australians, to get vaccines as fast as possible. America First does not prevent Australians from helping themselves. In fact, as marmoewp likes to point out, most of the vaccines were developed outside the USA. “America First” did not stop either of our countries from buying them. We just help to make the vaccine available by encouraging their production.

      I have been alive for a long time, and I have seen nothing like “Operation Warp Speed.” It worked! We have the vaccines, we have treatments like the ones Trump used himself.

      Was Obama a failure? I prefer thinking of Trump as a success and of Obama as a Socialist footnote. However, time will tell. People can be utterly stupid. If the Biden Administration succeeds in securing a tyrannical Socialist regime, then Obama will most likely be credited for his role in the disaster, first by propaganda as a success and latter as someone who helped to make a huge, bloody mess.

      No such thing as a currency holding steady? Life has these rules. One of them is everything is relative.

      Absolutely steady? No. There are absolute truths, but even some absolute truths seem to more absolute than others. Here is one of my favorite not so absolute truths.

      All views have equal merit, and none should be considered better than another.

      This is one of the primary tenets of Multiculturalism. One of the amazing ideologies Secularists actually teach children.

      You aren’t happy? And you are blaming that on investing? Perhaps you should consider long term investing, like the next life.

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      1. Operation “warp speed” did not beat the UK or the EU countries and your roll out depended on the FDA not Trump.

        “If the Biden Administration succeeds in securing a tyrannical Socialist regime”

        This is kinda funny, are you a political alarmist? this is extremist thinking and explains why you have no real concerns about the riot on the Capitol by your own extremists. I conclude you do not really understand the consequences of this.

        All views do have equal merit and I take yours on board, however reasonable deduction and evidence must be considered before claiming anything so extreme. I have always said the centre of the road is the desirable political position, we can all see from history what happens to a country that is ruled by a suppressive political or religious regime and a dictator.

        I am happy because I do not live in the US and invest in your faithful belief that there is another life, nor would I want to take on divisive political and social views and join the inter-Christian political arguments and then take to the streets as a left or right winger Christian to bash people because of those views. This is not standing up for your rights, this is religious madness.

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        1. @sklyjd

          When you say our roll out depended on the FDA, not Trump, I think you have conceded the argument. Trump was in charge of the FDA.

          Am I a political alarmist? The human race is the same as it was thousands of years ago. Progress, whatever that is, is not inevitable. We are too fickle. That is evidence by the genocidal regimes that obtained power in the last century and by those who hold power today. We can point to Russia and China as backwards and not be surprised that tyrants rule the people of these nations, but what happened in Germany under the Nazis we cannot just explain away. The people of Germany were among the best educated in Europe.

          All views do have equal merit and I take yours on board, however reasonable deduction and evidence must be considered before claiming anything so extreme.

          In other words, all views don’t have equal merit. No sane person actually believes that all views do have equal merit.

          Can these two views both be true at the same time?

          • All views have equal merit, and none should be considered better than another.
          • All views do not have equal merit. Some should be considered better than others.

          The center of the road is the perfect place to get run over from both directions.

          This is rich!

          I am happy because I do not live in the US and invest in your faithful belief that there is another life, nor would I want to take on divisive political and social views and join the inter-Christian political arguments and then take to the streets as a left or right winger Christian to bash people because of those views. This is not standing up for your rights, this is religious madness.

          You come here to argue about what? Who is doing all the bashing? I am just pointing out the fact you are usually wrong. How do you get through the day?

          For example, please observe what I advocate on this blog, letting people make their own choices and run their own lives. It is you who insist upon telling other people what their children should be made to believe by the government. If Atheists want to teach their children to be Atheists, I think it sad, but in a free society, everyone who wants to learn what others believe and why eventually does. Allowing government to ram the ideas of some onto others stifles the free exchange of ideas.

          Apparently the Jan 6 riot at the Capitol Building was mostly the work of people usually characterized as right wing extremists. Not well organized, but the people involved did prepare in advance. Even though their numbers were relatively small (The vast majority of that enormous crowd of Trump supporters had no interest in attacking anyone. The people who listened to Trump did not arrive at the Capitol until after the defenses had already been breached.).

          Unfortunately, the Capitol Police were not ready for even a small scale attack. So relatively small numbers overwhelmed the Capitol Police. Even so, only the Capitol Police actually shot anyone, and that woman was unarmed.

          You characterized the violence in my nation as inter-Christian political arguments. You also implied more violence than is actually taking place. That strikes me as a deliberate distortion.

          We had Antifa and BLM riots all last year (in areas run by Democrats), and these riots have continued into this year. Antifa and BLW organizers are clearly not Christian rioters. Still, even though those rioters have vandalized communities; started fires; and attacked the police with rocks, bricks, lasers, flaming bottles filled with gasoline, powerful firecrackers and so forth; the police have not been shooting those rioters.

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          1. Get real Tom, Trump might of thought he can order the FDA to pass a vaccine immediately for public consumption and threaten to sack people, however I would bet my boots they would not approve any medicines or vaccines without the appropriate tests regardless of threats from Trump.

            I guess both arguments cannot have equal merit because the facts will eliminate one of them and I guess I should have said “some merit.”

            I characterise your nation as more violent than most democratic countries and many people do. This attitude has been common for many years due primarily because of the gun culture and the violence that stems from it. No democratic first world country apart from the US allows it’s citizens to walk the streets and enter shops with automatic weapons.

            “Antifa and BLW organizers are clearly not Christian rioters.”

            How is that clear? As 70% of your country is Christian and the Christian morals of all people being equal, these BLM people are simply following the Biblical word. I cannot believe none of these people are Christians, evidently Several religious leaders are proponents of a church movement called racial reconciliation, which seeks to end racism by addressing it as a sin in individuals that can be eradicated through Biblical study, confession, and prayer. 
            A case in point is that your comment had little merit.

            Many activists associated with Antifa are believed to be proponents of anarchism, viewing their anti-fascism protests as part of a larger action against authoritarianism. Left wing extremists that are not to different from the right wing extremist Proud Boys and I doubt many Christians are found in either group.

            “the police have not been shooting those rioters.”

            I should hope not, why do you want to see that? Shooting people is not an answer to healing your country and I was under the impression Republicans supported the police and as Christians would therefore be supporting less needless deaths.

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          2. @sklyjd

            We got effective vaccines much more quickly than is usual. Trump streamlined and got funding for the process. Democrats claimed it would not happen. Now they are trying to take credit.

            You don’t like guns? Guns are just another kind of tool. I have never seen anyone shot. I have known one clown who practiced quick draw with a loaded weapon and shot himself in the leg. Foolish people do foolish things. I worry more about the ones driving cars.

            BLM was started by Marxists. Look it up.

            Antifa uses violence to solve problems. Christians do not do that. To avoid being associated with the thugs, Democrat politicians claim Antifa is a myth.

            Given the number of Antifa and BLM riots and the violence of the rioters, the police have been very restrained towards them. In fact, these riots have taken place almost exclusively in Democrat-run areas, and Democrats have obviously restrained the police and permitted the rioters to be more destructive.

            Even Federal officers, defending Federal building (during Trump’s administration) went to great lengths to avoid harming the rioters. When people are throwing bricks and pointing lasers that can blind at you, I think it is time to consider shooting them. However, that has not happened.

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  2. Skylgpt

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-45827430

    You compared a percentage of Obama 2.3 to Trump 2.5

    If you consider when using percentage on the graph you linked over time, percentage is misleading.

    For example, if the previous GP was small or a decline in total in a previous period any rise shown in percentage will not be as significant as if the previous period had a higher total.

    What you should analyze on the above link is what was the main factors of the total from 1950 and in my opinion, it shows that manufacturing in 1950 was the largest contributor to the totals and the decreased began in the periods that manufacturing began being outsourced to other Nations.

    Which bears out my previous comment to marampt about Germany GDP and trade balances will indicate the opposite than the USA’s

    Trump recognized this and tried to balance the trade deficits. When COVID-19 came on the scene, the dependence of PPE medical supplies especially when 90 percent had to be transported 8000 miles away became apparent to the folly of allowing the trade balances of essential goods to be dependent in a global economy dependence.

    Sad, in my opinion

    Regards and goodwill blogging.

    t

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  3. Tom,

    In a comment on another post, you called me an “idiot”. Idiots at least have an excuse.

    I know that you are not an idiot. An idiot would have no reason to be ashamed. No, you are just being foolish big brother, and worse, you are promoting a Big Lie that has lead other folks less intelligent, less educated than yourself into foolish as well. Are you getting the feeling that your foolishness is isolating you to only the company of other fools?

    Because you like to cherry pick the Bible, here is a Scripture quote from Proverbs 18 that seems appropriate:

    18 Whoever isolates himself seeks his own desire;
    he breaks out against all sound judgment.
    2 A fool takes no pleasure in understanding,
    but only in expressing his opinion.
    3 When wickedness comes, contempt comes also,
    and with dishonor comes disgrace.
    4 The words of a man’s mouth are deep waters;
    the fountain of wisdom is a bubbling brook.
    5 It is not good to be partial to[a] the wicked
    or to deprive the righteous of justice.
    6 A fool’s lips walk into a fight,
    and his mouth invites a beating.
    7 A fool’s mouth is his ruin,
    and his lips are a snare to his soul.

    Your case for not being ashamed of your foolishness depends upon a number of assumptions about what happened on January 6 and your part in the lies that lead up to that tragedy. Such assumptions deny everything that it means to be a traditional Conservative Republican (and also, IMHO, runs counter to Christian principles about false witness and about a devotion to the truth). Because you are unlikely to trust me on this, I will refer you to the 21 page memo that Conservative Republican Congressional Leader, Representative Liz Cheney, put out. I invite you to really hear her arguments and respond to her instead of me. Here are excerpts posted in the National Review:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/corner/liz-cheney-objecting-to-electoral-college-votes-sets-exceptionally-dangerous-precedent/amp/

    I will read your response, but I’m pretty much done with you on this. Only my love for you has made me try to arrest your fall into the land of internet false Christian prophet preachers and mad conspiracy theorists. I get the feeling that I am not the only one who loves you who has tried to net your descent. At this point, I think I may foolishly be doing more harm than good. Reminds me of another Scripture quote:

    Proverbs 14:7-9
    English Standard Version
    7 Leave the presence of a fool,
    for there you do not meet words of knowledge.

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    1. @tsalmon

      I called you an idiot? I searched my website for the last couple of years using Google. Not sure what you are talking about. I did call you a Socialist, and I explained why. If we believe government gives us our rights, that leads to Socialism. The more government we have, the more rights we have. At what point has government grown so big and powerful we have no rights? That you would not say, and you refused to explain how to prevent such a catastrophe.

      In return for calling you a Socialist, you have called me a fascist, a white supremacist and now a fool. I guess you have gotten the better part of this exchange.

      Am I a fool? All men are a bit foolish, and I am a man. I still have my foolish moments. My idiotic ones too.

      What does the Bible mean by “fool”? Am I a fool in the sense the Bible uses the word? Yes and no. I am quite capable of speaking when silence would be more appropriate. However, the often refers to a fool as someone who doesn’t take God seriously. You may wish to do a little research on that.

      I am tired of arguing about your farcical hatred of Donald Trump. If the Democratic Party wants to make it sinful to argue over the results of an election when they win, then they should have done a lot more to support election integrity. Instead, they deliberately undermined confidence in elections. They most certainly should not have harassed Trump with a special prosecutor and undermined confidence in the legitimacy of his victory.

      You cannot have it both ways, especially after the hypocrisy of last year’s riots. It is no big deal to attack the White House and threaten Trump and his family, but Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and AOC are in the Capitol?

      One of the reasons the Founders created a limited government is that by limiting the power of government we allow each other to make our own choices and to bear the consequences of those choices.

      What is slavery about? We enslave others so that they can bear the consequence of our choices. When I say I want something and I make someone else do the work to get me what I want, I have enslaved them. The person I have enslaved bears the consequences of my desires. They do all the work. I have all the gain. Hence, when Southern plantation owners grew cotton, their black slaves spent long hot hours in the sun. That is your Socialist government. The people in charge have all the gain.

      Slavery is a form of unlimited government. Instead of consigning slaves to the domination of the state, however, slaves become the property of the rich, and the state takes upon itself the responsibility for keeping those slaves defined as property. So, the people in charge have all the gain.

      Is slavery then a form of Socialism? I suppose the definition of Socialism does not include Critical Race Theory and Intersectionality, but tyranny, which is at the end of the road where Socialism leads, always requires some stupid thing that is required to pit people against each other.

      God bless you and keep you and yours!

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      1. “You told me about what happened at the Capitol you idiot, and you also know I was more angry about it than you were. So, you are trying to make me responsible? That is about as stupid as it gets.”

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        1. @tsalmon

          I should have known better. Can’t trust Google.

          I admit you are right. I did call you an idiot. I did not think much of it at the time, but I should not have done that. So, I suppose I owe you a little explanation.

          All I intended was to express some righteous indignation. With your irrational insistence that I abandon my support for Trump you are behaving with all the wisdom of an idiot. Does behaving like an idiot make you an idiot? God knows.

          Given your approval and repetition of accusations that make Trump out to be a fascist, a white supremacist, an extremist, a liar, a traitor, a philander, and so forth without proof…… You are in the position of the pot calling the kettle black (https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the-pot-calling-the-kettle-black.html).

          Because we are all sinners, none of us are in a position to cast the first stone. What we call justice in our court rooms is not justice. At best we just punish lawbreakers to discourage more law breaking. So, when without any proof you accuse Trump of inciting the riot on Jan 6,…. Then you attack me for supporting him?

          Either you just don’t know because you live in an Liberal Democrat news media echo chamber, or you just don’t care. Since I have pointed you to articles like this one before, I fear that it is that latter.
          https://thefederalist.com/2021/02/03/chuck-schumer-used-violent-rhetoric-to-sic-a-mob-on-two-supreme-court-justices/

          Even though the rioters were self-selected, not representative Trump’s supported, compared to some of the riots sponsored by Democrat supporters, even those people were not especially violent. The only person shot at the Capitol that day was an unarmed woman.
          https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/11/us/who-died-in-capitol-building-attack.html Was that woman foolish to enter the Capitol Building? Yep. Dumb to disobey policemen doing their jobs.

          The Capitol policeman who died was no doubt a decent man, but the authorities cannot prove any of the rioters even hurt him.
          https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/02/politics/brian-sicknick-charges/index.html

          Most of the people who died that day died because being in a large, densely packed crowd has always been dangerous. That is why shouting “FIRE” in a theater, when there is no fire, is against the law.

          How many policemen and rioters were hurt in the scuffles? Too many. There was no good excuse for attacking the Capitol. If you look into it, you will find that one reason that the FBI is arresting so many is that there own family and friends are IDing them.

          Anyway, there is nothing so pure about the people you support that I should abandon Trump for their sake. I support Trump policies both because I think they make more sense and because they are far more honorable.

          Because I want the rule of law, I debate the issues. If you don’t want to be ruled by men, you may wish to start debating the issues and stop debating a man and the people who support the particular man you and the fake news media have glommed onto an excuse to hate.

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      2. ” I searched my website for the last couple of years using Google. ”

        Google search does not work for your comment section. No idea, why. Example:

        The first link finds an excerpt from a post of yours.

        https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Acitizentom.com%2F2020%2F01+%22cannot+be+allowed+to+win%22

        The second link does not find an excerpt from the first comment by John to that post.

        https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Acitizentom.com%2F2020%2F01+%22Liberal+Democrats+call+Trump+and+his+supporters+rude%22

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  4. Sklyjd

    In my opinion, most people who supported Trump because he actually managed to fulfill his campaign promises. Millions of people were complaining about their jobs being farmed out to other Nations but none of the Dems ever did anything but tell them they were better off stocking shelves with stuff mane in China for minimum wages that the jobs they once had.

    As for the immigration issues which were perpetuating for over 40 years without any measure of success, he was effective.

    As for helping the poor etc., he might have accomplished even more than provide the most jobs and wage increases in decades. if the Dems would have been more cooperative.

    As for the rich getting richer, do you really care if they provide incentives at the same time the poor and middle class to benefit by job creation instead of staying home and collecting subsides mainly from those who work?

    Let’s hope and pray the Dems don’t socialize the USA to destroy capitalism which is the incentives that made the USA successful in the past.

    As for religion, Trump supported school choice or school vouchers instead of school unions and liberal indoctrination of students

    As for Covid, when you get vaccinated, thank Trump for providing the fastest time frame in medical history of development of a vaccine.

    Regards and goodwill blogging.

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    1. “As for Covid, when you get vaccinated, thank Trump for providing the fastest time frame in medical history of development of a vaccine.”

      Out of nine vaccines currently in use Moderna is the _only_ one developed in the USA. If you should want to claim the Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for Trump, that one was developed in Germany with German state funding, Pfizer “only” comes into play for production / distribution. The latter declined warpspeed funding, but does paritcipate in warpspeed distribution. The other vaccines are English, Russian, Chinese and Indian.

      Get a grip on your facts, Chekov.

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      1. marmoewp

        Do you ever wonder how it is that the USA has become so dependent on Germany because their leaders focused on teaching their children skills while the USA leaders led the USA to become a service economy?

        Problem is once you lose your skills and expertise, you become dependent upon those with skills and become a servant in a service industry.

        Thanks to all the past leaders in the USA who allowed this to happen when they believed in a global economy like Obama and his predecessors and farmed out manufacturing to other Nations.
        Whether you farm out manufacturing you farm out the skills workers leaven or gain experience and expertise whether it is skills to manufacture widgets of medicines.

        Trump apparently recognized how one plus one equals two and partnered with anyone who had the expertise to speed up the vaccines because he recognized he had no other choice thanks to his predecessors.

        Regards and goodwill blogging.

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      2. @marmoewp

        You got something against free trade?

        The fact is that we got the vaccine in record speed.

        The thing that makes the USA unique is the idea stated in our Declaration of Independence. If something is not invented here, that doesn’t stop us from using it.

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    2. Ok, for the benefit of the doubt, lets say you are right and Trump delivered his promises to some Americans where people were The main issue includes much about his methodology, his domestic policies had little to do with Europe and the South Pacific nations, however his BS and blatant ignorance regarding long standing agreements and partnerships with countries that were solid allies along with his rude attitude towards other leaders, nations and races soon had him pegged as the racist buffoon he was. If you were to think he was making “America Great Again” you are sadly mistaken.

      I agree that admiring someone for speaking out is great but not when someone with such huge influence compulsively lie to the people about important and clearly do not believe the scientific facts regarding the virus. This is why he lost the election, he cut his own throat, the truth don’t lie, just the supporters.

      You hope the Democrats do not destroy capitalism? Trump had his chance to reduce the taxes of the workers but instead reduced the taxes of the capitalistic rich who became wealthier during this pandemic , how does this work to make the lower classes wealthier? All countries need capitalism just as they need socialism and every other political ideology just as we need left and right nutters, because if one side of any ideology takes total power we get violence, anarchy and dictatorships. I am amazed you do not get this fact and keep thinking your brand of politics have all the answers.

      Trump did nothing for us in Australia, and most will agree “fastest time frame in medical history” is a joke and would be an absolute lie and basically he did very little to combat the virus to save lives in the US, his recent concern about the vaccination was way too late to save his orange neck.

      Regards and good will to you also and hope 2021 is a great year for you.

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  5. What you fail to see Tom is it is not just the Democrats that criticise Trump but the rest of the world mostly loath the man due to many different reasons, not to mention many Republicans supporters including some high profile government people who are trying to save their Republican party.

    It is ironic that the Trump supporters believe he is fighting for the poor when over his 4 years the very wealthy have benefited more than ever especially considering his tax cuts in 2018 where the 400 wealthiest people paid a lower tax rate than any other group. Admittedly he did also have the Covid virus problems also making the poor worst off.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/camilomaldonado/2019/10/10/trump-tax-cuts-helped-billionaires-pay-less-taxes-than-the-working-class-in-2018/?sh=3eb19ca83128

    Did Trump join the riot on the capitol like he said? No, he is stupid but not quite that stupid because he knows how to use people for his own benefit. Is he concerned about the riot and the 5 people that died, did he offer finance for his supporters bail or finance for their defence lawyers or attempt to pardon the Proud Boys and the radical leaders or pay for the funerals of his supporters that died that day?

    I think you know the answers and what is more do you really believe he would put an end to abortion, give Christians special rights and that he is actually a Bible believing Christian? He is in the same league as the TV evangelists and he has the same charismatic powers. If it suits them to be a Christian to become wealthy and obtain power they will be Christians. Trump has taken you all for a ride.

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    1. @sklyjd

      You obviously don’t know much about how economics or taxes work, but most people are surprisingly ignorant, which is why articles like that work.

      Here is a funny excerpt from here => https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/university-of-california-berkeley-1312

      Berkeley is well known as a hub of liberal student activism: The Free Speech Movement – a 1964 student protest at Berkeley in response to the administration’s ban on political activity – gained widespread attention.

      Consider something closer to the truth from here => https://www.breitbart.com/social-justice/2017/02/02/trump-threatens-uc-berkeley-university-receives-370-million-federal-funding/

      UC Berkeley last year received $370 million in funding from the federal government, underlining the seriousness of President Trump’s threat to withdraw funding following leftist riots at the college yesterday.

      The riots, which were a successful effort to prevent Breitbart Senior Editor MILO from speaking at the university, were condemned by President Donald Trump, who earlier threatened to take away the university’s federal funding. (continued)

      UC Berkeley is a hotbed of Liberal Democrat indoctrination and activism. It is not an objective source.

      Now consider a couple of observation about taxes.

      • There are many different types of taxes. Most people pay most of the taxes they pay by paying income and payroll taxes on their paychecks and sales taxes on what they buy. The wealthy pay capital gains taxes.
      • When our government cuts taxes, the people who pay the most taxes benefit. When capital gains taxes are cut, the rich benefit.

      To stimulate the economy of the USA, Trump had to make the return on investment competitive with the rest of the world. That meant that Trump had to cut the capital gains tax rate and the corporate tax rates. Did that benefit the wealthy. Yep! The roaring economy that followed however, helped all Americans.

      Punishing the rich is not the government’s job. So, you may as well stop using that as a measure of the government’s performance.

      The rest of what you wrote is even sillier, but so are your sources.

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      1. Milo is about the nuttiest extreme right winger you can get; I do not condone the riots but if the university is such a left-wing hotbed as you suggest why on Earth take a red rag to a bull? It is so stupid, surely set up by the right 😊

        Taxes I do know about, I have paid them for 50 years. I do know that cutting taxes for the rich does not trickle-down wealth to the poor, that has been tried and lied by many governments. As to your “roaring economy” please take time to get a non-biased view of the economy under Trump. They do quote Trump’s public claims about the economy revival that his supporters believed; however I do admit under the conditions Trump and his administration did better than could be expected, however he did insist on cutting his own throat.

        https://www.bbc.com/news/world-45827430

        https://www.dw.com/en/trump-and-the-us-economy-what-can-he-take-credit-for/a-54945982

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        1. @sklyjd

          It is typical of American universities these days to protest Conservative speakers of any kind. The protests at UC Berkeley tended to be surprisingly violent. Just because of a speaker?

          Until the onset of the pandemic, the US economy was growing quite well. Unemployment was at record lows, the value of our currency was holding steady, and investors were happy. Prior to that the economy had been stagnant. Obama had nothing to do with the surging economy. In fact, he had promised stagnation, but I am tired of looking up the quote.

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