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Will your vote count? If the election was rigged in Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, it won’t. Was it rigged? Well, consider how this “news article” starts.
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to block the battleground states from casting “unlawful and constitutionally tainted votes” in the Electoral College. There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud, experts say.
Texas sues over election results in Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania | The Texas Tribune
That “journalist” has not even told you what the lawsuit is about, but he has told you what to think about it. Don’t take Ken Paxton seriously? He is just the Texas Attorney General? This is why we should have little use for the so-called mainstream news.
Consider how this report starts.
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton filed a lawsuit against the battleground states of Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin in the U.S…
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tsalmon,
Are you really convinced that the accusations are useless baseless claims and have no reservations about the results without question for a first time rushed mail in ballot on millions large scale was conducted by politicians who over time have some sad history of not being honest?
Especially when there are no details of how the audits were audited, for example on the signature matches and follow up of contested ballots or how many were actually contested?
Regards and goodwill blogging.
Rudy,
I don’t think it is possible to make flawless any human institutional system, especially one as diverse as our 50 state electoral system and also especially when we do our election in the midst of a war or a pandemic. However, I think that college football on a good year is by far more fraught with imperfections and corruption than this presidential election was this year. And yet, even in college football, when all the good calls and the bad calls are made, and the game is over, we don’t let one side endlessly whine and contest the results, especially when one side basically wins by two touchdowns and the losing side actually had home field advantage.
Weeks ago, this became less than frivolous and pointless. This latest case is just another political stunt that will rapidly go down in flames like all the rest. I am making light of all this because it is so ridiculous, but there is a dangerous side to it too, just as there would be a dangerous side to a college team and the losing college refusing to accept that they lost. All and all, we have a President who is acting like a sore losing child and he is teaching our children and grand children to ignore the rules and just be sore losers too.
TSalmon,
If a person loses in a fair game and is angry, he is a sore loser.
If a person loses because the game was not fair, he is not a sore loser, he is a victim.
So, what is the truth whether Trump lost a fair election or is a victim?
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There are logical ways to determine how to find the truth.
If interested, check out a post on the subject and sources.
Active vs. Comatose Minds, 2020 Election? King Solomon Blog – Rudy u Martinka (rudymartinka.com)
Again, are you really convinced Trump lost in a fair election or are you marveling because you are pleased with the outcome is your choice even if perhaps it was not fair and voters have been duped by higher up oppression of their freedom?
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If interested,
https://rudymartinka.com/2020/12/05/trump-comatose-nation-king-solomon-blog/
You Decide
Regards and goodwill blogging.
Rudy,
I don’t think this is what you think it is. Look into the attorney general of Texas who brought this, uhh, lawsuit(?). From the Dallas Morning News:
“The FBI is investigating allegations by former senior staffers that Paxton used the attorney general’s office to benefit a campaign donor. Critics speculated that this latest legal maneuver is a bid not just to overturn the election but to curry favor with Trump in hopes of a preemptive pardon.
“Paxton has also been under indictment for more than five years on allegations involving securities fraud. But those are state criminal charges, and presidents can only issue pardons for federal crimes.
“‘Even Barr has distanced himself from Trump’s blatant lies’ about the election, said Gilberto Hinojosa, chairman of the Texas Democratic Party. ‘Yet, in an effort to make news and potentially gain favor with Trump — who is dishing out presidential pardons to allies — indicted Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is willing to carry Trump’s legal water. This is downright wrong and embarrassing for Texans.’”
The rest of the article is here:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2020/12/08/texas-ag-paxton-challenges-election-result-in-four-key-battleground-states/%3foutputType=amp
My guess is that this rather baseless pardon fishing political stunt won’t even survive the first look by the Republican dominated Supremes, but Paxton may get what he wants from it regardless.
Oh well. I’ll take a look at your post though Rudy. Best regards my friend.
@tsalmon
@Rudy
Notice how Liberal Democrats never deal with issues. They just try to destroy people.
Tom, Tsalmon,
I linked your post and comments to an time news article I read today on the issue and comments of Tsalmon and myself about how the ballot signature matches were conducted in Georgia..
If Interested.
https://rudymartinka.com/2020/12/09/are-news-mavericks-in-desperate-need-in-usa-king-solomon-blog/
Regards and goodwill blogging.
“Are you really convinced that the accusations are useless baseless claims and have no reservations about the results without question for a first time rushed mail in ballot on millions large scale was conducted by politicians who over time have some sad history of not being honest?“
Rudy,
When it comes to government, I am an institutionalist, not a perfectionist. The Rule of Law is a set of institutions governed by certain set of very high ideals, the epitome of which are rarely met.
Let’s assume, for the sake of argument only, that the necessity of mail-in ballots because of the pandemic actually provided a vehicle for rampant fraud. Let’s also assume, again for the sake of argument only, that the Democrats, who can’t stop arguing with themselves on anything for more than two seconds, managed to secretly conspire together long enough to formulate a plan to take advantage of this new flaw in the system to not only manufacture tens of thousands of votes for Biden (but apparently not against down ballot Republicans), but to do right under the noses of Republican officials overseeing the elections in Republican states where Biden won. Finally, let’s assume that this vast conspiracy is now irreversible because these purported fraudulent votes are irreparably part of the final tabulation and we have passed the “safe harbor day” when electors have been certified to Congress electing Joe Biden, not only in the Electoral College but by an overwhelming popular vote of almost 7 million at this point. Now let’s add in, just for good measure, that a press that loves any shiny object even if it’s full of dirt have all gotten together and joined the conspiracy or else have turned a blind eye to it.
Even if everything in that fantastic narrative were true, then I would still say that the institutions that govern us are more important than the fact that they may occasionally fail us. They will always fail us to some extent.
Innocent people are occasionally executed or sent to prison for life, but do we get rid of or revolt against the institutions that make up the Rule of Law in this country? No, we argue and we fight over how to improve them, but we also recognize that human justice is far from perfect, and the alternative to our imperfect institutions of justice and of elections is that we battle and kill each other to decide who rules, who wins and who loses. The alternative is that might makes right. The alternative is that Trump is not “elected” under the rules – he is coronated after some battle.
SCOTUS will never hear this case, but at some point you folks will have to decide to let your conspiracy theories go, and accept the results of how our institutions have ruled, or you will have to decide to start killing people to get your way. Honestly ask yourself, is the massive ego of a billionaire populist (what an oxymoron that is) worth it? Is your ego worth it?
I don’t like Trump. I think he lied and cheated the system to win in 2016, I supported his constitutional impeachment and removal from office, and I accept that that effort failed, but he has always been and will always be, very unfortunately in my mind, the 45th POTUS.
Tsalmon,,
I believe I understand your feelings on this issue. However, I really think we need to investigate the truth and logic in the interests of all the sad sacrifices made by our past founders and heroes that sacrificed for the belief of freedom in our Nation.
Sometimes people are prone to just give in to the old idiom, “you can’t fight city hall”
and others will fight until the truth is revealed..
And sometimes people are driven by individual foolishness or wisdom, and Spirit, in my opinion.
Regards and goodwill blogging.
Regards and goodwill blogging
I hate to use technical language, however, at in a southern legal court of law we call this kind of case more useless than a screen door on a submarine, or more useless than an aluminum house trailer in a tornado, or more useless than duck feet in a desert, or more useless than . . . you get the point. 😄
@tsalmon
Yep! More ridiculous ridicule.
Frankly, since all you have to offer is ridiculous ridicule, you have not got anything worth a response. So, so long as that is all you have to offer, I will have little to say in response. Don’t see the point in doing what you are doing, endlessly repeating myself.
Tom,
Your comment is spot on. “That “journalist” has not even told you what the lawsuit is about, but he has told you what to think about it.”
As you know in addition to the Texas suit reasons, I have been trying to find out details what States actually did to check ballot signatures against voter registrations. From what I read, if a ballot is contested for signatures, the State must notify the voter and allow them to have the ballot corrected.
I even checked supposed fact check sites and all I read is the same comments less any details how the States checked signatures which use the same two word, over and over, “baseless claims.”
The media used to employ reports with the title investigative reports to check details but somehow it appears the practice has vanished and all anyone can obtain is opinions or accusations from social media sites.
For example, how many signatures were rejected and how many notices where sent out, and if a ballot was found out to be a dead person and was mailed, is that mail fraud in addition to voter fraud, etc. etc.
Add the hypocrisy in Illinois that our Governor insisted take place in the beginning height of the pandemic instead of delaying like other States. In my opinion is because the Dems know in primaries that lower voter turnout results are more like to favor long term incumbents over new opposing candidate.
Using the pandemic to make last minute changes smells of Democrat Rahm Emanuel’s infamous statement, “never let a crisis go to waste.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/rahm-emanuel-reprises-never-let-a-crisis-go-to-waste-catchphrase-amid-coronavirus-pandemic/”
King Solomon wrote about the use of perfume to hide the odor of a dead body, the main stream media lack of details is not spreading any perfume or details to help end the smell of this election, in my opinion.
Sad,
Regards and goodwill blogging.
@Rudy
What bothers me is that so few are willing to fight. If people don’t resist this now, within 10 years we be having lots of people wishing they had fought and unable to do so. That includes Republican officials who think they are being smart by urging Trump to concede.
Tom,
I have the same concerns about the whys of the silence from many members of the Republican party.
• The saying of a persons silence is deafening, meaning ……. A silence or lack of response that reveals something significant,
Either something we don’t know is lurking around or Republicans are not very loyal or faithful fellows in my opinion.
such as disapproval or a lack of enthusiasm.
Sad.
Regards and goodwill blogging.
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@Rudy
We voted for politicians who offered to give us other people’s money. People who give bribes will take bribes.
It seems now that too many of our politicians are loyal, if they are loyal to anyone, to the people who bought them. Others are afraid of being derided by the news media. Only a precious few speak up.
I have had a look, _why_ the signature checking procedures were changed in Georgia. Prior to the settlement and subsequent changes (timely notification, majority of three to reject signature), a single, __untrained__ election clerk would determine, whether or not the signature was a match. No appeals, no review. Notifications, if they came, could well come after election day. Furthermore, it just so happened, that there were several counties, where absentee ballots from Blacks were rejected at astounding rates.
Cobb County: Black submitted 24% of the absentee ballotts, their share of rejected ballots was 34%.
Chatham County: 36% share of submission, 44% share of rejections against Blacks.
Numbers like that should and did raise eyebrows, resulted in a lawsuit and the settlement.
There is no “what race are you?” square on the election ballot.
There has, on the other hand, been blatant, direct and public threats against Trump supporters. Somehow there seems no concern about this disenfranchisement.
Here is an example:
This is a Michigan legislator.
Just thinking further I haven’t seen all ballots in all states so maybe some states do ask this question. i do not recall it on my ballot. The point about threats to Trump supporters stands.
@Liz
You are being played. Take a look at the longer version linked in this article.
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/12/michigan-lawmaker-who-faced-death-threats-punished-for-warning-trumpers-in-viral-video.html
Warning to Trump supporters: If you make death threats against this legislator, she will be happy to sick the FBI on you and sue you into poverty.
@marmoewp
Social media threats don’t mean much. Frankly, even with the outright censorship by the so-called mainstream media and Big Tech, it is far easier to find violence against Conservatives. Look at the effort to frame Trump and his associates with Russia! Russia! Russia! Democrats lie before Congress, put servers with classified in their basements, back Antifa and Black Lives Matters, and we are supposed to believe they are the victims?😕 And you think Liz is being played?
Warning to Trump supporters: If you make death threats against this legislator, she will be happy to sick the FBI on you and sue you into poverty.
That isn’t what she said. Imagine a legislator stating same about any other group of people, in exactly the same words.
Cities have been burning. Trump supporters have been targeted and attacked. They’ve promised more. Politicians have publicly asked citizens to target Trump supporters and take away their livelihoods and ability to feed their families.
Firearm sales have never been higher than this year, and a large portion of those are new owners. The media successfully convinced them Trump supporters would burn this country to the ground when the EXACT opposite as been happening. One has to be purposefully, willfully blind to believe otherwise. Examples are all around.
Politicians who support Trump are actively targeted and threatened.
Lawyers who support Trump are actively targeted and threatened.
Press secretaries…I’m curious how many death threats she gets every day?
Biden put out a commercial likening Trump supporters to KKK/NeoNazi brownshirts. Of course there is violence and of course Trump supporters are targeted. The people are being told Trump is Hitler and his supporters fascist white Supremacists.
All of this you (and Doug, and TSalmon) seem absolutely blind to.
Here a statute on “voter intimidation”
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/594
Whoever intimidates, threatens, coerces, or attempts to intimidate, threaten, or coerce, any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, at any election held solely or in part for the purpose of electing such candidate, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
The “Trump Accountability Project” listing all known Trump donors for the purpose of targeting them. It wasn’t hidden it was very public and disseminated by US Democrat legislators.
Pelosi withholds desperately needed funding for the population for the purpose of harming Trump and influencing the vote. She hasn’t even been coy about it and openly admits it. She called Trump supporters “enemies of the state” and likened federal law enforcement to Storm Troopers.
Tucker is spot on.
https://rumble.com/vbqxq9-tucker-carlson-rips-mainstream-media-for-election-rigging.html?mref=22lbp&mc=56yab
marmoewp
Did Georgia notify the 34 or 24 percent voters with the rejected ballots as they are supposed to do?
If not, why?
Regards and goodwill blogging.
@marmoewp
Everything comes down racism. Don’t agree with a Liberal Democrat, and you are a racist. Don’t let Liberal Democrats steal an election and you are a racist, even if their candidate is a racist.
For security reasons — because there is no good way to validate mail-in ballots — it is a stupid idea to let people vote that way unless there is absolutely no other way they can vote.
Since Democrats are notorious for trying to keep ballots from out of state military personnel from being counted, it is a cinch they know how to manipulate mail-in ballots.