YOU BLACK? A DEMOCRAT? SUCKER! WANT TO RAISE YOUR POLITICAL IQ? BECOME A CONSERVATIVE

The Washington Monument, pictured in October 2016. (from here (en.wikipedia.org))
What American is not familiar with this monument? How much longer do you think it will be allowed to stand? Will our leaders tear it down or just rename it?

Do I sound angry? Well, I am actually sad. I am fed up with people who insist that we look upon others and everything else through the keyhole of identity politics.

A traditional keyhole for a warded lock (from here (en.wikipedia.org))

It has only been a month since I posted THE CONQUEST OF THE UNITED STATES BY CULTURAL DESTRUCTION. No doubt most people thought the idea that anyone would be silly enough to propose getting rid of the Washington Monument absurd, but predicting the idiocy of Liberal Democrats has become too easy. The consequences of hateful ignorance is too predicable.

You say those publications are just Conservative, lying publications? Well, I used DuckDuckGo for that search. Using Google the first hit was The Washington Post, a local paper. As a local paper, that Liberal Democrat rag had to publish something, D.C. committee recommends stripping the names of Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Francis Scott Key and others from city government buildings (washingtonpost.com). Even though Washington D.C. is our nation’s capital, the national Liberal Democrat news media had little interest in the story. Too embarrassing.

Although the people of Washington D.C., over 90 percent Democrats (much like the folks in Portland, OR and Seattle, WA — anyone for burning down the city?), might like the news, most of the rest the country still questions the sanity of nonsense like Critical Race Theory. Therefore, the Liberal Democrat news media has to hide the absurdities that comes out the looney bins Liberal Democrats run. Given the opportunity, Conservative publications might do the same, but Conservative don’t own 90 percent of the news media.

So, after what should be an obvious embarrassment, what can the folks in Washington D.C. do for themselves? What is wrong with just proudly pointing to themselves as the avant garde of the upcoming Marxist revolution? How about the fact that Marxism is grossly stupid?

Don’t take me seriously because I am white? Are you that bigoted? Then try listening to black Conservatives.

 

 

 

69 thoughts on “YOU BLACK? A DEMOCRAT? SUCKER! WANT TO RAISE YOUR POLITICAL IQ? BECOME A CONSERVATIVE

  1. “You voted for Obama twice“

    I assume that you voted for McCain because you admired him more. But then Trump disparaged McCain for being captured. The animosity between the two came to the point where Trump was not welcomed at McCain’s funeral and McCain’s widow spoke for Joe Biden’s character at the Democratic Convention.

    And then I guess that you voted for Romney, I assume because you believed Romney has honesty and character. And yet Romney voted the remove Trump from office during the impeachment trial. Romney remains one of the few Republicans brave enough to stand up against Trump on principle,

    Who is the one who is having trouble being consistent about judging character here?

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    1. @tsalmon

      Here is the comment you are supposedly responding to https://citizentom.com/2020/09/02/you-black-a-democrat-sucker-want-to-raise-your-political-iq-become-a-conservative/comment-page-1/#comment-96114

      I compared the candidates. I will readily admit I disliked both McCain and Romney. I posted as much on my blog. I didn’t much like Trump either, and I said as much. However, I compared them with their opponents, and I voted for them. Given Obama’s record — and Trump’s record too — I think I made the best choices I could. Since all you are doing is talking trash, trying to tell us how much you hate Trump and anyone who supports him, I think anyone would be foolish to take your advice. Pity! You know how to make a good decision. You just won’t try to make one, and I can only speculate as to why.

      Trump now has a record. Based upon that record and the record of the abominable coalition that has formed against him, I fully support Trump.

      You support Biden? No. I think you just hate a straw man, what you have been told about Trump.

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      1. Tom,

        I support Biden. He was a vital part of an administration that didn’t screw up a pandemic (I don’t think any Americans in America died of Ebola compared to 180,000 killed here due to Trump), didn’t crash the economy (actually recovered it from the Great Recession the Republicans put it in, the longest economic recovery in US history until Trump turned it into the worst job losses since the Great Depression), didn’t foment mostly peaceful protests into occasions of looting and riots (in fact Obama/Biden were particularly great at bringing empathy and calm to similar moments of tragedy and discord), and didn’t disparage Gold Star families, war heroes and war dead (got nothing to add here – before Trump, nobody in politics was that openly despicable).

        Why do you say that I don’t support Biden? Besides, don’t you think that accusing me of less than gratuitous groveling support for my choice sounds dumb when you just vacillated on, qualified and downplayed your support for everyone you ever voted for, including Trump? 🙃

        I like Biden fine, but I’m voting against Trump because Trump is a failure in virtually every category as a leader. Trump has a really amazing decades long track record as a conman, conspiracy theorist (have you seen his recent interview with Laura Ingraham – WOW!) and world class liar though. It’s his only superpowers. Haven’t I made all that clear by now? 🙁

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        1. @tsalmon

          So, we should vote for Biden because Obama stagnated the economy? Otherwise, he didn’t do anything.

          Ebola is scary, but it doesn’t spread easily. Kills people too quickly. There is apparently an animal in Africa humans catch it from. Pray that animal stays there.

          Blaming Trump for COVID-19 and the economic crash that followed is like blaming FDR for the attack on Pearl Harbor. People do it, but it is dumb.

          The issue is what did Trump do about the disease the Chinese government apparently chose to spread instead of contain. He did HIS job. He let governors do their jobs, and Democrats governors have gone out their way to seize more power than needed. They have stifled their economies, shut down their schools, and screwed up our election system. The incompetents even sent people with COVID19 into nursing homes.

          Anyway, all you have done is spit out another anti-Trump diatribe and pretend you are saying something good about Biden. Your little deceit fools only you.

          Truth is you are as you say voting against Trump. You don’t know anything Biden has done for our country. You just repeat lies about Trump that lack any specifics because the media you watch and read lacks any respect for the Truth.

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          1. WWII? If Trump had handled that as well as he’s handled COVID, we’d all be speaking German. The catastrophic results (especially in comparison to other countries) of Trumps failures of leadership speak for themselves. The buck stops with Trump.

            I guess we’ll just have to disagree. 😊

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          2. @tsalmon

            If the news media had done to FDR what it has done to Trump, we would like as not be Nazis. Fortunately, the invasion of Pearl Harbor unified the country. Otherwise, who knows?

            The buck stops with Trump? It is not as if the news media would let it stop anywhere else. Listen to you. 😆

            Did you know there were no scandals during the Obama administration? And the Biden campaign is gaffe-free. That is so obvious you cannot miss it.

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          3. The News Media? Yes, there’s ALWAYS someone else to blame for Trump’s abject failures. Truth is truth Tom, even if you don’t like who is saying it; lies are lies Tom, even if you love the liar and his lies (“Airtifa” is flying to invade the burbs near you🤥).

            “Fortunately, the invasion of Pearl Harbor unified the country. Otherwise, who knows?”

            FDR didn’t pretend that Japan wasn’t a threat, refuse to use war powers to save lives, and then blame the Republicans for organizing coastal watches and using blackout curtains. No, unlike FDR, Trump doesn’t unite – he plays only to his base and purposely divides.

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          4. @tsalmon

            The news media is doing all the blaming. You are doing all the blaming. No logic. No fixing problems. Just fixing blame.

            You have no idea what Trump should have done differently. You just complain. You don’t even argue Biden’s empty promises will work. You too much fear having to explain and defend them.

            Obama accomplished nothing except to make the rich richer and to garner more power to the government. That’s why Biden is not even running on Obama’s record. As you just said, you are just voting against Trump.

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          5. “As you just said, you are just voting against Trump.“

            Yes, exactly. Now you got it! As with most incumbents, this election will be referendum on Trump‘s performance, or in this case a referendum on Trump’s dithering incompetence. Now was that so hard to understand?

            Biden has a record, a record of not destroying the country, of not telling dozens of lies daily, of not disparaging military service, if not turning the White House into a racketeering headquarters. That’s all the record he needs for me to chose Biden over the destructive failure that is Donald J. Trump.

            I’m not an ideological voter Tom, and I’m not a tribal partisan like you, and I don’t think that the voters that will decide this election are either. Whether for good or for bad, most important voters vote their feelings at the time of election, and those voters have to be “feeling” pretty awful about how things are generally going (I’m generally feeling pretty blessed most of the time, but I feel terrible about what I see happening to so many others). You must know that this is how elections work. You must know about the famous (or infamous) Obama/Biden voters that probably decided the last election? How can they possibly be deeply ideological or rabidly partisan like you, and like most of the folks who comment here.

            And that’s why I don’t really expect to change many minds here. I just enjoy the repartee, I thank you for that.

            Say, are you going to do a post denying the recent reports (even confirmed by Faux News) that Trump called dead veterans “losers” and “suckers”? That should be some creative rhetoric.

            Happy Labor Day brother!

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          6. @tsalmon

            Say, are you going to do a post denying the recent reports (even confirmed by Faux News) that Trump called dead veterans “losers” and “suckers”? That should be some creative rhetoric.

            You are a former reporter. You are a lawyer. You have been a military officer and a union representative to the news media. You don’t know how people lie?

            Given your considerable experience, I am puzzled why you would ask me to refute an obvious lie. You cannot do it yourself?

            Because the lie is so obvious, I had not bothered to read the “The Atlantic” news fiction. Why click on a lying website? However, for your sake, I looked at the crap. What a stink! You do realize that the sources are unnamed? Why do the sources want to remain unnamed? Those liars are fearful of hostile tweets? Seriously? Read Goldberg’s article again. Then consider why his brave, dedicated to the public good sources won’t go in the record. They are afraid of tweets? 😆 You can’t make this stuff up.

            Do you ever bother to research anything? Sarah Huckabee Sanders and John Bolton (named sources), say they were there and Trump did not fly to the cemetery because the weather made it unsafe. Of course, the fact the lie is obvious did not stop Democrats, including Joe Biden, from running with it and spreading it.

            You ought to be ashamed. You are not that gullible. You are just desperate believe Trump is evil. Yet, Liberal Democrats have record of lying and lying and lying.

            Does Trump always tell the truth? Well, he certainly changes his mind, and he sometimes promises more than he can deliver. When he promised Mexico would pay for the wall, I thought that a stretch, but I expect he believed he could do it. But thousands of lies? No. When fact checkers call a difference of opinion a lie, they are lying.

            https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/wtas-officials-say-the-atlantic-story-is-false

            https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/515150-furor-grows-over-trumps-reported-remarks-on-war-dead

            https://www.christianpost.com/news/trump-senior-staff-deny-claims-president-called-fallen-us-soldiers-losers-suckers.html

            https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pete-buttigieg-trump-thinks-were-all-suckers?cmpid=prn_newsstand

            https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/09/04/trump-refuse-visit-war-cemeteries-soldiers-losers-suckers-not-really-according-john-bolton/

            https://news.yahoo.com/jeffrey-goldberg-says-sources-trump-162942060.html

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          7. @tsalmon

            I will do a post on the differences between Trump’s and Biden’s record. The theme?

            Biden has a record, a record of not destroying the country, of not telling dozens of lies daily, of not disparaging military service, if not turning the White House into a racketeering headquarters. That’s all the record he needs for me to chose Biden over the destructive failure that is Donald J. Trump.

            When you say you are not an ideological voter, that cracks me up.

            ideo·​log·​i·​cal | \ ˌī-dē-ə-ˈlä-ji-kəl , ˌi- \
            variants: or less commonly ideologic \ ˌī-​dē-​ə-​ˈlä-​jik , ˌi-​ \
            Definition of ideological
            1: of, relating to, or based on ideology
            2: relating to or concerned with ideas

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          8. You do realize that the sources are unnamed?

            That’s the usual trend. Unnamed, and typically under private circumstances that cannot be verified.
            From an Atlantic piece I loosely call an “article” this morning re Trump:
            “He needs to be stopped.”
            The Atlantic has become the Huffington post. They don’t even try to pretend anymore.

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          9. Friend who is a brilliant writer (his father was in the news biz, and he took great pride in it):

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          10. Tom,

            You point to all the things I’ve been blessed enough to experience in my life (Navy Pilot and Line Officer with subspecialties in Intel, ASW and Elint, holder of a Juris Doctorate and Licensed Attorney, media trained former National Spokesperson for my Airline Pilots’ Union, Captain at a major US airline, and yes, a pretty awful stint as a cub reporter on a few small papers a million years ago) and yet I am the one here who is supposedly gullible?

            Since you must know that I am not an ignorant tool, there are only two other possibilities: (1) either I firmly believe, based on that knowledge and experience, that Trump lacks the basic character and integrity to be POTUS, or I’m the most despicable sort of person, a person who knows Trump is a fine fellow but wants to destroy Trump for my own nefarious purposes, presumably so that I can steal a lucrative leadership position in the new Socialistic totalitarian world order that I am secretly pushing despite spending most of my life in the military as a Cold Warrior fighting just such totalitarian tyranny. While Im far from being a perfect person, don’t you think the latter characterization is a bit of a stretch? 🤔

            You say that it is impossible not to be ideological to some extent and there is some truth to that. However, you must realize that there is a real difference in degree between the person who, because of basic naivety of character, becomes captured by the simplistic ideological dogmas, of ISIS for example, and someone who has basic religious “ideals”, but also sustains enough pragmatic skepticism to resist the simplistic, formulaic and often reductionist dogmas that purely ideological thinking invariably leads to. In my humble opinion, Christianity depends upon the humility of faith and grace, upon the embrace of mystery and paradox, not upon smug certainty. We weigh evidence, we balance dilemmas and we make imperfect choices.

            In my view, Christian idealism (in contrast to ideology) in a finite and fallen world is about those difficult choices between very often competing goods and evils, balancing on a scale often related vices and virtues where, at the extremes of the spectrum, virtues can become their own vices. This worldview doesn’t offer the comforting certainty of the closed ideology, but it is the difference between reality and fantasy, between simply better and some fictional Utopian perfection that people on both the far Left and the far Right are invariably attracted to and captured by.

            As for the press, when was that ever ideal? Anonymous sources are part of the deal, and the credibility of using them depends upon the reputation of the reporter and the journal, as well as, in this case, all the other news sources that corroborated the story with their own sources. Aside from that, and based upon public statements Trump has made in the past, it sounds completely in character for Trump.

            However, don’t you see how it drips with hypocrisy for the instigator of so many lies and innuendos (“people are saying”, “ I heard this from somebody that I can’t name”) to complain about the tactic. When the leader of the free world’s number one scam is character assassination by the slanderous rumor then he has little room to complain if he really is being foisted on his own petard. In any event, isn’t your constant unsubstantiated claims that Biden is weak, that Biden has dementia, that Biden is a tool for nefarious dark forces on the Left is even worse than me simply pointing out what even Fox News has corroborated? Who should be ashamed?

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          11. @tsalmon

            Why don’t you keep it simple? I said you are repeating gossip, and I said you have no excuse for not knowing better. You just said you know It is gossip. So, now you are making excuses.

            We are each responsible for our own conduct.

            Does Biden have problems? Yep!

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          12. Saying I said something that I obviously didn’t Say does indeed make the situation simple to understand. Thanks.

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          13. @tsalmon

            I thought you had said something in all that babble. I suppose it is a sign of the success of your efforts to be nonideological. You don’t make any sense.

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  2. Tom.

    Don”t be sad. Now that Joe Biden has spoken out against violence, it is comforting to know all the violence will end.

    And if not, Joe is pudding and singing a song that I explain in my blog post to be published tomorrow AM titled

    Joe Biden’s Pudding Statement and Song Verses?

    Regards and goodwill blogging.

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  3. Tom I am weary, sad, frustrated and amazed that this has all spiraled so utterly quickly from the ‘what if’ to suddenly the’ it is’ as the cries that “there ain’t a damn thing you can do about it” ring through the air.
    I read yesterday that a professor somewhere, a professor at a college I knew quite well, was actually tweeting that the Republicans and their members were out to kill black people.
    That that was an actual Republican agenda.
    HUH???
    I’m sorry, but killing anyone is the furthest thing from my thought process…and yet here we have a supposedly educated black woman, charged with teaching young people, spewing such nonsense.

    I want this all to stop.
    Where are the people in our country who have sense…those who know right from wrong?
    I know we still have some.
    I’m one.
    But I know there is a real fear of the nuts coming to get those with sense.
    We see that all over.
    Hence the cries of Come Lord Jesus.

    But others folks during other dark days have had similar cries.
    Something has got to give!

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    1. @Julie
      @Lisa

      I will give you the same advice I gave Lisa, the same advice I expect both of you would give me, pray.

      I don’t know what will happen. Maybe we will be taken up in the Rapture. Time will tell. What I do know is that major crises happen about every four generations. That is about how long we live. That is just about how long it takes to forget the lessons we learned from the last crisis.

      World War II was the last crisis. So far, we have gotten off easy.

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  4. So how do we stop it? Our vote? I have no confidence in that anymore. I suppose we could chain ourselves to the monuments much like the “tree huggers” of the 70s and 80s did. But truly, I am asking the question, because I think most of us “common people” feel helpless unless we want to physically confront the violent agitators. There are days I don’t even want to go out of my home. Please, if you have suggestions that don’t involve putting our own lives at risk, I’d love to hear them.

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    1. @Lisa

      Part of the objective of the news media is to cause us to give up. They want true believers, but they are happy to see apathy in their opponents.

      What do I suggest? Pray. Ask for our Lord to aid us. Ask for His guidance.

      We can send emails to our leaders demanding that they protect the integrity of the vote. In November we will need poll workers. We can volunteer. We can vote. We can do lots of things, but we cannot do anything unless God is in it. So, pray.

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  5. Tom,

    There is a fragment of truth about what you say about the most extreme Left. A real sense of loss, of grievance, manifested in anger and sadness drives your blind frustration, but do you even wonder if a similar frustration drives the blindness of the Leftist extremists that are in some sense your shadow opposite? Are symbols and slogans really the issue or are there real, very old racial sins imbedded in our history and institutions that need to be exposed, reconciled and consensually reformed?

    If you are going to ask the center left to own every extremism of the far Left, then the center Right must be expected to own every outrage promulgated by Trump supporting wingnut White Supremacists and Libertarian Anarchists on the far Right. Who wins the shooting war when both extremes force the Middle to choose sides? I think no one. Certainly not the peacemakers. Aren’t Christians supposed to be peace makers rather than hate mongers for either extreme?

    Which candidate is calling for the Center to hold and which one is only inflaming his base with lies and trumped up conspiracy theories? Which candidate is opposing ALL violence, from both sides and which one is stoking the flames of violence for his own desparate political purposes? Trump wants to win even if he has to burn down the country to do so. Is that how you feel too?

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    1. @tsalmon

      The funny thing is that you think you are a political moderate.

      Trump is calling for law and order, not fomenting violence.

      When “mostly peaceful protesters” kill, maim, rape, and pillage, why are they are entitled to sympathy? When ignorant people call for destroying the memory of our nation’s history, we are not suppose to wonder how they got so ignorant? Is that because we might discover that government-run schools are not a good idea?

      What is going on in DC is going on in Democrat run cities all over the country. The destruction of monuments is just an excuse for riots, and Democrats have been unwilling to stop those riots. Republicans, Conservatives in particular, have had nothing to do with making this mess. Nevertheless, the messmakers want to blame the riots on Trump and white supremacists. Not working.

      Frankly, we need school choice, and we need to know who is responsible for the riots. Some people belong in jail.
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa/

      https://time.com/5847555/bail-reform-funds-george-floyd-protests/

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/kamala-harris-ripped-for-flip-flopping-on-rioters-after-she-asked-for-donations-to-bail-them-out-of-jail

      https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/08/04/myths-vs-facts-cooperation-and-receding-riot-activity-portland-oregon

      https://nypost.com/2020/08/30/democrats-have-trapped-themselves-on-the-riots-and-other-commentaryfrom-the-left-dems-just-got-trapped-amid-the-chaos-and-confusion-of-recent-riots-andrew-sullivan-declares-at-his-blog-her/

      https://www.vox.com/2020/6/2/21275901/police-violence-riots-jacob-blake-kenosha-wisconsin

      https://www.vox.com/2020/6/2/21275901/police-violence-riots-jacob-blake-kenosha-wisconsin

      https://reason.com/2020/09/01/who-funds-the-rioters-is-not-a-question-the-federal-government-needs-to-ask/

      https://www.npr.org/2020/08/12/901859883/riots-that-followed-anti-racism-protests-come-at-great-cost-to-black-owned-busin

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      1. “When ‘mostly peaceful protesters’ kill, maim, rape, and pillage, why are they are entitled to sympathy?”

        A fair question sort of like, when did Republicans stop beating their wives, is a fair question.

        There are so many cognitive distortions here that it’s hard to keep count:

        1. Catastrophizing – “the cities are burning down, the cities are burning down, save us Donald, the cities are burning down!”
        2. Overgeneration – public schools are the root of all evil. Seriously, doesn’t your pony know at least one other trick?😏
        3. Dualistic thinking – it’s a perfect battle to the death of good verses evil. You know that one can actually believe that policing is an honorable profession and still think policing, because it necessarily allows deadly force, needs constant reform just like I can believe that airline piloting is an honorable profession and know that the life or death quest for better professionalism is never over. Or as Trump put it, making a bad decision that kills a black man or woman is just like choking on a golf putt. 😒
        4. Mental filtering – distorting the reality that tens of thousands, even millions, of good peace loving people have marched for racial justice and that racial injustice is a real problem which has economic and justiciable causes that go back centuries and instead on focusing on a moment of rioting by a few extremists on both sides or by opportunists who don’t have a side other than stealing for themselves.
        5. Emotional thinking – basing reality upon negative emotions rather than actual objective facts and data, for example about crime rates and economic numbers.
        6. Labeling – if someone simply disagrees with you, they are all in some negative classifications, in this case your supposed ignorant blacks, woke $h!theads, and the PC cancel culture crowd.
        What is “funny” is it’s ok for the far Right to do this but if the other side uses labeling to call your side white supremacists, then you call foul. Nope no double standard here.😆

        Then there’s the cognitive dissonance of blaming Biden for what actually happening in Trump’s America on Trump’s watch. This isn’t technically a “distortion” in that it requires a whole other kind of cognitive contortion.

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        1. I’ll just take this one:
          There are so many cognitive distortions here that it’s hard to keep count:
          1. Catastrophizing – “the cities are burning down, the cities are burning down, save us Donald, the cities are burning down!”

          Do you have some other information indicating the cities are NOT burning down? And things are just…swell. Last I heard murders in Chicago were up about 400 percent. But if you have some information to refute this, please….I’m honestly curious.
          I already posted about my spouse’s trip to Portland.
          He purposely asked a girl with blue hair and a nose ring what it’s like in the city. He figured she’d answer honestly and probably wasn’t politically conservative…and she told him it was terrible down there and not to go.

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          1. Liz,

            There is some statistical evidence that crime rates are up in all cities, regardless of who they are run by, but they are still below the crime rates of a decade or two ago, for example when Rudy was running the Big Apple.

            Could the recent increase (including to some extent the recent rioting and looting) have anything at all to do with Trump’s comparatively terrible handling of the (now out of control) pandemic and the corresponding economic collapse which hit low income city folks (often people of color) particularly hard? What is that old saying about the simplest explanation probably being the one staring you in the face? What is that old military thing about the guy in charge ultimately being accountable for the downste effects of his actions and inactions? But yah, could be the 250 year old institution of public schools, not just a president who fans the flames when he that compares the deaths of black men and women to the equivalent of chocking on a golf putt, could it? Could be that simple could it?

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          2. @tsalmon

            You just assert that Trump did something wrong, but then you never say what else he could have done. That is crap!

            Does the increasing crime rate have something to do with COVID-19? Yep! Shut down the economy for months, and that will increase economic hardship. The governors, not the president control the shutdown, and Democrats are slamming down their economies harder than Republicans.

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          3. Sorry about the typos. Wrote that on my phone while strolling through commissary. My shopping suffered almost as much as my writing. 😉

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          4. There is some statistical evidence that crime rates are up in all cities, regardless of who they are run by

            It’s hard to find…because so much has changed so recently. I looked at the FBI site which usually keeps such statistics and there was nothing recent.
            I do know that in April (four short months ago), Miami announced there had been 7 consecutive weeks without a homicide. That’s a record not seen since the 1950s.
            There is, as most people know, a very very high minority population in Miami.

            Sorry about the typos. Wrote that on my phone while strolling through commissary. My shopping suffered almost as much as my writing

            Heh, no worries. I can’t post from my cell at all. You did a lot better than I would! 🙂

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          5. Liz,

            A few facts that I don’t think are much in dispute:

            1. Republican mayors of big cities have become kind of rare these days.

            2. Crime has generally gone down in all cities beginning in the 1990’s.

            3. Homicides have increased in big cities this year, the spike is similar in smaller cities run by Republican mayors such a Tulsa, OK.

            4. City mayors actually legally have less direct power to control crime in most states than people might think. Cities in and of themselves have no inherent authority. They are creatures of state law and are incorporated by the state. Cities cannot run deficits. They are “cities”, not “city states”. In most ways that matter, the POTUS actually has more effective power over the things that cause crime (gun control, poverty, immigration, A NATIONAL HEALTH AND ECONOMIC RESPONSE TO A PANDEMIC, etc.) than the mayors do.

            5. The more local the government is, the less that it is actually ideologically partisan. During my last year of law school, I exturned as a paid law clerk for the Jefferson County attorney’s office In Alabama. After law school, I represented a city, a small suburb of Birmingham, AL in various forms of legal counsel from tort litigation to imminent domain. I just don’t remember anyone with a particularly partisan ideology. At that level, the political issues and differences are less ideologically abstract and more practical. This kind of partisan politicization of blame shifting and credit taking just doesn’t occur at the city level. People generally just blame or credit the individual elected officials. I can tell you that when it comes to dealing with public worker’s unions and workers rights, mayors tend to govern more like Republicans than Democrats. (Do you know how hard it is to fire an incompetent city employee? I do because I’ve helped do it and I didn’t even know their politics). People care more about potholes than political parties.

            6. Crime rates are fueled by Long building economic problems that have little to do with simply proclaiming “law and order”. Deindustrialization and white flight allowed by trains and highways drove urban blight (and thus crime) more than who gets the most tough on crime in inner cities. For example, half of Detroit’s labor force was unemployed during the worst point in the pandemic.

            7. Republicans are denying aid to cities just when they are bankrupting due to the Pandemic. In other words, Trump screwed up the national pandemic response and now he’s blaming the cities for the problems he caused while doing nothing to ameliorate their problems. As one expert put it, “If you want order, it helps to keep government working.” Through his incompetence, Trump lit the economic match that has some parts of some cities burning and now he’s dumping gas on the fire by blaming all the locals. Don’t send in American war fighting forces to kill their own citizens (killing is what we train to do right?) ad Cadet Bone Spur keeps proposing. Just send some aid during an international health emergency.

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          6. @tsalmon

            1. For thousands of years the rich have manipulated the poor in an alliance against the middle. The poor these days live in the intercity, and rich Democrats are trying to manipulate them.
            2. Crime goes up and down for various reasons. Not enforcing the law will do it.
            3. Democrat-run big cities. Crime is not going up elsewhere.
            4. City mayors actually legally have less direct power to control crime in most states than people might think? They don’t have the power to arrest and charge rioters with a crime? That’s is one of the silliest things I have heard lately.🤔🤨😣

            In Virginia, county officials conduct murder trials. Except in blue states — where the politicians don’t want to arrest the rioters — local police arrest rioters and request help when they need it from the State and Federal Governments.
            5.

            The more local the government is, the less that it is actually ideologically partisan. …… (Do you know how hard it is to fire an incompetent city employee? I do because I’ve helped do it and I didn’t even know their politics).

            Would the bookends of that paragraph have anything to do with politically non-partisan unions?

            Thanks! I needed a good laugh.
            6. Sounds like Marxism 101 to me.
            7. Republicans are refusing to pay off the debt of blue-run States and cities. That debt predates COVID-19. To a large extent that debt is due to the bloated retirement benefits of government employees. Such debt is obviously something the Federal Government SHOULD NOT pay off.

            BTW: “Cadet Bone Spur” has more courage than either you or I. When you call Trump names like that, you discredit no one except yourself. When the obvious is not true, you are just trying to call some cowardly. When Trump left a comfortable life to become our president, you are saying he has no heart for our country. All you doing is venting the darkness your own heart, trying to cast a cloud over others.

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          7. @tsalmon

            There are multiple things driving the rise in crime. The first is the news media denigrating the police. That is nationwide. The second is the lack of enforcement.

            Compare Tulsa to Chicago or New York.

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          8. 3. Homicides have increased in big cities this year, the spike is similar in smaller cities run by Republican mayors such a Tulsa, OK.
            Again, I’m not sure because we don’t have the numbers for comparison (yet).
            They might be “similar” or they might be quite different.
            I think when the government actively condemns the police in the manner we’ve seen in the past couple of months, violent crime will increase in places that do so.
            That seems like it should be self evident.
            But we shall see.
            Maybe condemning and defunding the police will have a positive impact, contrary to everything most sane and rational people would expect. But I don’t think so.

            4. City mayors actually legally have less direct power to control crime in most states than people might think. Cities in and of themselves have no inherent authority. They are creatures of state law and are incorporated by the state. Cities cannot run deficits. They are “cities”, not “city states”. In most ways that matter, the POTUS actually has more effective power over the things that cause crime (gun control, poverty, immigration, A NATIONAL HEALTH AND ECONOMIC RESPONSE TO A PANDEMIC, etc.) than the mayors do.
            Most of this we do not agree on.
            I lived in Miami when concealed carry was enacted and I personally saw the positive impact of this legislation. Places that were not safe to go anywhere near began to have thriving businesses within a few short years.
            Re Immigration, we’ve seen states ignore federal legislation via bureaucracy (example, Pelosi’s state requiring 3 days advance notice to businesses before ICE inspections). On the one hand, the Democrats say Trump is a dictator and on the other they blame him for not acting like one.

            Article that might interest some folks here:
            https://www.insider.com/murder-rates-are-rising-in-cities-across-america-2020-5

            5. The more local the government is, the less that it is actually ideologically partisan.
            I tend to agree, except the mayors of major cities have made it partisan.
            That should be pretty obvious by their public statements.
            Perhaps back in the day (your law school days) things were different.

            Do you know how hard it is to fire an incompetent city employee?
            We had a lot government contract workers at the last couple of bases.
            And a lot of projects. I’m assuming it is probably very similar.

            6. Crime rates are fueled by Long building economic problems that have little to do with simply proclaiming “law and order”.
            I agree that simply proclaiming “law and order” doesn’t do much.
            But having a police force that is respected and can enforce law and order does have a positive impact on the crime rate.
            We have not only current events, but a great deal of history to go by there.

            Deindustrialization and white flight allowed by trains and highways drove urban blight (and thus crime) more than who gets the most tough on crime in inner cities.
            True.
            So…let’s get back to work, and get the economy moving again. It was doing very well before the pandemic.
            It seems democrats want to keep the economy shut down (for covid), also cut the police, encourage the violence (which they do when they call such things the “summer of love” and so forth), then blame the federal government out of the other side of their mouths.

            7. Republicans are denying aid to cities just when they are bankrupting due to the Pandemic. In other words, Trump screwed up the national pandemic response and now he’s blaming the cities for the problems he caused while doing nothing to ameliorate their problems. As one expert put it, “If you want order, it helps to keep government working.”
            Did that expert advocate defunding and vilifying the police?

            Don’t send in American war fighting forces to kill their own citizens (killing is what we train to do right?) ad Cadet Bone Spur keeps proposing. Just send some aid during an international health emergency.
            I do not see how throwing aid into this conflagration is going to help anything.
            Are they going to pay the police with this aid? Where is going to go?
            To the city government’s private security forces?
            See link to article above.

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          9. Liz,

            I honestly don’t know what “defunding the police” means, except that it is something that some on the extreme Left have been saying, although how that is actually defined seems to depend greatly on whom you talk to. We can go mayor by mayor if you want to, but I see very little Democratic political consensus to get rid of the police, just reform them in the face of numerous riot inducing tragedies. Joe Biden has specifically said on numerous occasions that he does not support defunding the Police. It sounds like a disingenuously or oped up straw man. I don’t think it will work on most people, especially when they look at Trump’s daily acts of corruption and lawlessness. (The latest is that, at risk of committing a felony, Trump is encouraging his supporters to vote twice).

            Regardless, I feel absolutely no need to defend every crackpot thing the extreme Left does anymore than you should feel the need to defend the words and actions of White Supremacists on the extreme Right. As I have said, I am an Independent who has voted for individuals from both Parties.

            Everything that I have read in a free press (or as Trump calls them, “The Enemy of the People”) is that crime is spiking everywhere, red and blue, all over the country in Trump’s America, but crime is still lower than the gang crime heydays of the 1980’s and 1990’s. Feel free to correct my understanding with real data if you can find it. Should Democratic Mayors get credit for that overall historic decrease if they are to take the blame for a recent spike? Possibly, but we all seem to agree that there are bigger national and international causes here that have little to do with any governor or mayor, much less their political party affiliation.

            As far as the response to the pandemic, this is more akin to being attacked by an enemy at a national level. Certainly, we have a right to be critical of local officials for their mistakes or for not following a national strategy, but Trump doesn’t have a strategy and when his scientists try to come up with one, he goes against it. This leaves local officials, red and blue, constantly flailing to keep up with changing political whims of the national leadership in a national crisis. For example, in my deep red state, the governor admitted to making mistakes by not taking the pandemic seriously enough early on. Since then (and in spite of Trump), he has been lead by the science to take aggressive action (especially for Mississippi) and our COVID numbers that were spiking are starting to level off. He has also been very transparent about the data and honest about what it means in a poor state with extreme poverty in the predominantly black regions that have been effected worst. In other words, unlike your title above Tom, he hasn’t patronized black Democrats in the cities and the Delta areas by just calling them stupid negro “suckers”. He has instead worked with all his constituencies to try to save lives with the resources he has and with a lot of ideological blowback, particularly from his right flank.

            There is a reason why most blacks are Democrats that goes back to the Civil Rights era and has been reinforced by the Republican Southern Strategy and more recently by “surgically calculated” Republican voter suppression efforts. Trotting out virtually every single black Republican at the Convention doesn’t really change that historical distrust. Look up the term “moral licensing” to see how this kind of self delusion works, or as Trump said of one of his few regular black attendees at his predominantly white rallies, “Where’s my black man?”

            Perhaps it’s who I hang out with, but my friends who happen to be black here in the South tend to be deeply religious. I’ve been told that this isn’t uncommon in the black southern culture where everyone has had a Mom or an Auntie who drags them to church. This should mean that my friends actually should be natural conservative Republicans, but mostly I have no idea what their political leanings are.

            When black southern folks do publicly lean Republican based upon their Christian moral sentiments (Sen. Tim Scott comes to mind), they spend all their time defending the worst racist aspects of a planned and coordinated Republican race baiting and dog whistling strategy, such as most of what comes out of Donald J. Trump mouth and Tweet hole.

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          10. @tsalmon

            You don’t know what the word “defund” means? You didn’t know that in some cities the police are being defunded. They are also retiring and new hires are scarce.

            Biden said he would redirect funding from the police. When his handlers realized that was not popular he switched. He says whatever he thinks people want to hear.

            You speak of the Southern Strategy, a myth. Name the politicians who switched parties.

            Trump is not encouraging his voters to vote twice. He is telling people that they can go to the polls and vote if their vote was not received in the mail. When you vote by mail, the people at the polls know if you voted. Well, maybe they don’t in blue states.

            Anyway, your false unsupported accusations of racism have grown tiresome. Put up or shut up.

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          11. “You speak of the Southern Strategy, a myth.”

            Look up this guy:

            “He is telling people that they can go to the polls and vote if their vote was not received in the mail.“

            If you send in a vote by mail and then got to the polls and try to vote again, regardless of whether your first vote has been received or tabulated yet, then that is attempting to vote twice. Even attempting to vote twice is a Class 1 Felony in NC. In other words, our lawless president is encouraging his voters to commit a crime (which in itself is a crime). This is true regardless of how easy it is for the system to catch double voters and discard their second vote. Period.

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          12. @tsalmon

            VOX is just a peddler of lies. I have seen that stupid video before. Because you repeat such nonsense, it does what you do. It cherry picks a precious few facts and presume motives you can’t know. You want to Barry Goldwater a racist? Then call me one. I think the bill went too far too.

            I have worked the polls here in Virginia. We routinely get people coming in who have requested an absentee ballot coming in to vote. We point out that they requested an absentee ballot. We have no way of knowing whether they got it or not. We also don’t if they voted.

            If an “absentee” voter give us their absentee ballot, they can vote. We spoil the absentee ballot. If they don’t have their absentee ballot, we let them vote provisionally.

            If you send out ballots in the mail to everyone, whether they request them or not, it is going to be a mess. Blame Democrats. It is an idea rife with potential for confusion. Neither the voter registration rolls or the postal service can handle that sort of thing. Add ballot harvesting and the idea is just corrupt.

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          13. @tsalmon

            That proves nothing, either. Dumber that the first video. You have a stinking accusation. You don’t have proof. You don’t read minds.

            When I say Democrats are wrong, I talk about what they are doing. What has Trump done that is racist, ask blacks to vote for him?

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          14. Tom,

            I wouldn’t know. I didn’t watch the Vox video. I was trying to link the Lee Atwater audio, but you know how ITunes ques up something else? Anyway, whatever?

            As for the continuing Trump crime spree, you can characterize it anyway you want to make up lame excuses, but Trump told his voters to vote twice if the poll workers don’t (yet) show their vote received, a crime. At the very least it is designed to spread chaos and confusion on voting day, which is exactly what Trump wants. Is it what you want too?

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          15. @tsalmon

            It is election day. If you vote early, and they still have not got it, they ain’t going to. Even if they do get it, they don’t have to put your mail-in ballot in the system If you voted in person.

            If you don’t like any of this, then don’t support mail-in balloting. I think it is stupid.

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          16. Tom,

            You got Atwater basically confessing. What do you want, a burning cross with a sign that says “vote Republican“ in front of it? I guess that wouldn’t be “proof” for you either.

            I voted for HW Bush, but I wasn’t so stupid that I didn’t see the “abstract” race baiting in the Willie Horton ad. The deniability that that gives to white voters who don’t want to think of themselves as racist, but who are basically scared of the black man is what makes it a racist dog whistle. It’s what Trump is doing with the same “Law and Order” playbook that Republican strategists and dirty tricksters have been using for decades.🙄

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          17. @tsalmon

            You and your damn dog whistles. You support a political party that overtly advocates Critical Race Theory and Intersectionality, and then you still expect to be taken seriously when you call someone a racist? 🙄

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          18. I think Trump is corrupt and incompetent, a terrible combination for a leader, but I don’t think he’s stupid, but apparently he thinks his voters are.

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          19. “You support a political party that overtly advocates Critical Race Theory and Intersectionality, and then you still expect to be taken seriously when you call someone a racist?“

            I support a political Party? I think you have me confused with your evil twin. 😃

            Yep. At the extreme those things can have their own sort of racism, just as, if you cut the whole WASP cultural exceptionalism thing very deep, it bleeds it’s own fascist White Supremacy nonsense, but don’t see that, do you?

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          20. @tsalmon

            You voted for Obama twice. You voted for H. Clinton. You are apparently going to vote for Biden. Why? Who knows? Who knows why you vote for any of those people? News media gave you marching orders? Guess that’s it.

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        2. @tsalmon

          1. Catastrophizing

          Trump wants to win even if he has to burn down the country to do so. Is that how you feel too?

          2. Overgeneration — Which tirade against Trump do I need to quote?
          3. Dualistic thinking

          Which candidate is calling for the Center to hold and which one is only inflaming his base with lies and trumped up conspiracy theories? Which candidate is opposing ALL violence, from both sides and which one is stoking the flames of violence for his own desparate political purposes?

          4. Mental filtering — You don’t see it on the Liberal Democrat news so it is not real? However, it is okay to label people as racists without a scrap of evidence on the say so of a biased news media?
          5. Emotional thinking — Which anti-Trump tirade should I quote?
          6. Labeling — The founders of Black Lives Matters call themselves Marxists. The rioters in Democrat-run cities are running amuck because the Democrats running those cities allow it. Identity politics is bigotry.

          Have you looked at the Democratic Party’s platform? It is nothing but a demand for power so they can save us from evil white males, unborn babies, climate change, poverty, …., and Trump, of course.

          I don’t want a government that gives us our rights because there is no such thing. I want a government that protect our rights — protects us from each other.

          The evil I worry about is in every human heart, even yours and mine. It is the envy and greed in every human heart that gives power to tyranny. A tyrant just masters — or thinks he masters — the envy and greed of others to elevate himself above all. Yet all a tyrant gains is a tiger by the tail.

          Vote Democrat. Give your tail to a tiger. Myself? I would rather not be jerked around.

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        3. @tsalmon.

          “There is some statistical evidence that crime rates are up in all cities, regardless of who they are run by…”

          You are living in CNN dreamland. The current sharp uptick in crime is directly the result of the lawlessness, defunding the police and letting criminals go free by these Democrat mayors, which any honest person can figure out….

          https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-cities-increase-violent-crime-police-group/story?id=71411919

          https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/08/04/minneapolis-crime-continues-to-spike-as-crucial-decisions-on-police-near

          https://www.wsj.com/articles/police-wrestle-with-surge-in-crime-in-u-s-cities-amid-defunding-efforts-11594472400

          https://www.kesq.com/news/national-world/2020/09/01/as-protests-continue-in-portland-after-deadly-clash-2-sheriffs-say-theyre-not-sending-deputies-to-help/

          There’s a LOT more evidence out there, including hundreds of videos, that prove what you’re saying is just not true. I have two nephews who are Chicago policemen and they say it’s like a war zone in some places in Chicago. They’ve never seen violence and looting like this before.

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          1. @Mel Wild

            Your comment went into moderation because it contained more than three links. Sorry, but it reduces the spam.

            Thanks for the links. When our leaders don’t enforce the law, what else should we expect.

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        4. I honestly don’t know what “defunding the police” means, except that it is something that some on the extreme Left have been saying, although how that is actually defined seems to depend greatly on whom you talk to. We can go mayor by mayor if you want to, but I see very little Democratic political consensus to get rid of the police, just reform them in the face of numerous riot inducing tragedies. Joe Biden has specifically said on numerous occasions that he does not support defunding the Police. It sounds like a disingenuously or oped up straw man.

          To defund police= to cut funding from police department budgets and decreased officer numbers.
          Examples:
          -Austin cut 1/3rd of its police budget
          -Seattle cut 3.5 million and “redirected” 17 million…their black police chief resigned in response.
          -New York and LA slashed one billion and 150 million, respectively.
          -San Francisco cut 120 million from its law enforcement budget.
          -Washington DC cut 15 million
          -Baltimore cut 22 million
          -Portland cut around 16 million
          (there’s a lot more)
          Furthermore, cities have enacted legislation that endangers officers in the field by criminalizing effective non-violent control tactics.
          We had this conversation before.
          Only a month and a half ago.
          Have you changed your position?
          https://citizentom.com/2020/07/13/is-being-woke-a-mental-illness/

          Per Biden, law enforcement blogs have reviewed the Biden/Bernie carefully and I haven’t seen any fans. To say the least.
          https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/biden-and-sanders-have-a-unitymanifesto-it-will-reign-terror-on-law-enforcement-and-america/
          We don’t know about you but from a law enforcement perspective, there is not a lot in there to like if you are a police officer, sheriff, corrections officer or for that matter anyone who works in law enforcement in general.
          Clearly these proposals were not made in concert with people who actually work in law enforcement. Is there room for compromise on some of these proposals? Absolutely. But it is clear that these proposals come from the standpoint of taking care of offenders and tying the hands of cops.

          Regardless, I feel absolutely no need to defend every crackpot thing the extreme Left does anymore than you should feel the need to defend the words and actions of White Supremacists on the extreme Right. As I have said, I am an Independent who has voted for individuals from both Parties.

          Who is the “extreme left”? It looks like just a few short weeks ago their position was essentially your position.
          Mayors all around the country are enacting law enforcement defunding “reforms” are they all far left? I don’t see anyone enacting White Supremacist legislation. Companies have made hundreds of millions of dollars in commitments to demonstrate alignment with the extreme left.
          Frontier recently refused boarding in Atlanta to an air marshall for wearing an American flag mask. BLM masks were on board. Is that the standard for White Supremacist? Feel free to associate me with a person who wears an American flag mask.
          Side note: Unlike pedophile codes (which do exist) “dog whistling” doesn’t exist. There is no secret code “racists” use to talk to each other that others can decipher to “know what they really meant”.

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  6. Thanks for the link to my post, Tom. This whole thing has become like some Orwellian dystopian nightmare….except it’s real! To quote Orwell:

    “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” (George Orwell,”1984″)

    Haven’t we had enough of the Doublespeak gaslighting from Biden and his marketing arm, CNN and the NYT? It really is time to wake up!

    And, as you said here, what’s going on is absolutely idiotic. We have BLM and Antifa thugs attacking Rand Paul after the RNC, demanding he “say her name” when he’s the one putting forth the bill in the Senate named after Breanna Taylor! How stupid can you get! And, earlier this year, more idiocracy from people defacing statues of abolitionists like the one in this picture.

    I think the first thing these people should do is go learn their American history. Of course, racism and Breanna Taylor are only a pretense. What they really want is the overthrow of our constitution for a Marxist version of America. They’re just continuing on where Malcolm X left off in the sixties (just look him up and see the similarities). These people are insurrectionists. They don’t want real justice. If we don’t get this, WE are the stupid ones for being so naive and letting it happen.

    I’m glad you put people like Thomas Sowell here. That guy is a genius. If our Black American brothers and sisters really want to know the truth, they should get the movie, “Uncle Tom.” It will open their eyes to what’s been done to them over the last 60 years. http://www.uncletom.com.

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    1. @Mel Wild

      Thanks for the comment. I finally got around to reading Uncle Tom’s Cabin not too long ago. Needless to say I found myself astounded that anyone, much less a black American, would find being called an “Uncle Tom” an insult. The fact “Uncle Tom” has become an insult is a measure of how utterly ignorant we have become.

      We read or hear things that purport to tell us about the Bible, and so we think we know the Bible, but we don’t. Even if our ignorance is less profound, the same is true of other books.

      Because it made the existence of slavery much more vile in the eyes of Northerners, the publication of Uncle Tom’s Cabin was one of the major milestones in American history. Everyone should read it in high school, but the people who run our public schools have other ideas.

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      1. Yes, people should actually investigate what they continually parrot. What you’re talking about here is just more historical and literary ignorance. Uncle Tom, in the story, was a hero everyone should look up to. Of course, this totally partisan pejorative is also ironic. By calling people like Larry Elder and other black conservatives an “Uncle Tom,” they’re blindly condemning their own freedom from the liberal policies that have enslaved them to the government for the last 60 years.

        I’m so glad many are starting to wake up to this.

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  7. Do I sound angry? Well, I am actually sad. I am fed up with people who insist that we look upon others and everything else through the keyhole of identity politics.

    Yep. I read there are some professors and students being coerced into signing “I am a racist” statements.
    I do not think they understand the type of civil liability potential they are opening themselves up to, in a scramble to appease the mob.

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      1. @ Tom.

        From what I’ve learned, it seems that Marxism is the intellectual drug of Ivory Tower academia who don’t have to live in the real world. That’s why it’s so pervasive even though it destroys society wherever it’s tried. It seems to have gotten into Western universities through the neo-marxist French philosophers like Jacques Derrida and Michel Foucault in the 70s (who also gave us postmodernism). Jordan Peterson has some good stuff on how this developed over the last 50 years. I wrote about it here if you’re interested: https://wp.me/p3I7Ty-8sT

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    1. “I read there are some professors and students being coerced into signing “I am a racist” statements.”

      Liz, this is what Marxist ideology always produces. Dictatorial intolerance that demands complete submission to their will. I really hope Americans are waking up now that they’re seeing previews of coming attractions if they let these thugs get more power.

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