Posted on March 28, 2018 (from here)

If you want to understand what it was about the legalism of Pharisees that disgusted Jesus, all we have to do is watch what people do the Constitution. The proposal to put the citizenship question back in the U.S. Census is a simple, straightforward example.

What Is Going On?

A question is being restored to the census.

The White House said Tuesday that asking a question about citizenship on the 2020 census form is a standard practice that will help protect Americans’ voting rights.

“This is a question that’s been included in every census since 1965 with the exception of 2010, when it was removed,” said White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

She said the administration decided to reinstate the question because it has “provided data that’s necessary for the Department of Justice to protect voters, and specifically to help us better comply with the Voting Rights Act, which is something that’s important and part of this process.” (continued here)

Of course this change is making some unhappy.

What The Constitution Requires

The Constitution requires the House of Representative to be representative. Since the Constitution is a process document, it provides procedures. It does not necessarily explain the rationale, but it is obvious that what the framers of Constitution wanted was a count that had something to do with the number of voters (or citizens). Consider this portion of the text from Article 1, Section 2.

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. (from here)

The framers did not include the Indians and they compromised on the slaves. What would they have done about illegal aliens? Deported them, probably. Would they have given them health, education, and welfare benefits? H#LL NO!

What Kind Of Questions Are In The Census?

Since the Census Bureau is a government bureaucracy, everything it does tends to be overblown and complicated. The Census Bureau does the Decennial Census and American Community Survey. The Decennial Census is required by the Constitution. American Community Survey is the government being nosy. Of course, Decennial Census is nosy too. This page, Decennial Census and the American Community Survey (ACS), explains the relationship between the two programs. Note this excerpt.

In the early 1990s, demands for timely, nationally consistent statistics led federal government policymakers to consider the feasibility of collecting long form data continuously throughout each decade. The benefits of providing recent stats, along with the anticipated decennial census benefits in cost savings, planning, improved coverage, and more efficient operations, led the Census Bureau to pursue continuous measurement, later called the American Community Survey (ACS). After years of testing, outreach to stakeholders, and interaction with key data users—especially those in the statistical and demographic communities—the bureau launched the ACS in 2005.

This innovation enabled the 2010 Census to be a “short form only” census (blogger bolded this portion). Decoupling the collection of short and long form data allowed the U.S. Census Bureau to focus decennial census efforts on the constitutional requirements to produce a count of the resident population, while employing technology in both collections to improve efficiencies, improve accuracy, and reduce costs. The result has been the dissemination of more current and detailed information than has ever been available. (from here)

So what kind of questions does the Census Bureau ask on the American Community Survey? See Questions on the Form and Why We Ask. They want to know all about you, and your response is required by law.

If your address was selected for the American Community Survey, you are legally obligated to answer all the questions, as accurately as you can. The relevant laws are Title 18 U.S.C Section 3571 and Section 3559, which amends Title 13 U.S.C. Section 221. (from here)

So what kind of questions does the Census Bureau ask on the Decennial Census? Decennial Census Questionnaires & Instructions provides links to the old versions of the census. Since 2010, that has been a short form (in seven different languages), but they still want racial and ethnic data. So why not citizenship? Here, Download 2000 Census Long-Form Questionnaire [PDF – <1.0 MB]. The damn thing is forty pages long. Just hope you don’t get the 2020 version because you will be LEGALLY required to fill it out.



  1. The Democrats remind me of one of my kids soon after she learned to talk. In a short time later she learned to complain whenever she experienced something she did not like.

    After a while we nicknamed her, “moan, moan, bitch, bitch”.

    Perhaps the same nickname should be applied to the Democratic party.because it describes them well now, in my opinion.

    Regards and goodwill blogging.

  2. “The framers did not include the Indians and they compromised on the slaves. What would they have done about illegal aliens? Deported them, probably. Would they have given them health, education, and welfare benefits? H#LL NO!”

    Actually, they probably wouldn’t have done anything because A: immigration was fluid back then and B: taxes pretty much just barely* covered warfare (there was no welfare).

    *many many conflicts were the result of soldiers not getting paid.

    But it’s good that you realize that the founders were racist barbarians. You seem to be Christian so I don’t understand where your hostility towards people comes from. Don’t all lives matter, not just US citizens?

    1. Definitely a snarky comment.

      Agreed! St the time of the founding, the Federal Government did not fund health, education, and welfare programs for anyone, much less new arrivals. Crossing the ocean on wooden vessels was an expensive and dangerous undertaking. Most people did not want to do that. Even so, almost half of the new arrivals did not like America. So they went back to where they came from. The people who stayed liked our country and made it stronger. It is self destructive to bring in a bunch of people who don’t want to assimilate.

      Were the founders were racist barbarians? Some were, and some were not. Much like today.

      It is grand to think of our forbears as less wise. Because we live in the modern world, we like to think we are smarter. In truth, however, we stand upon the shoulders of their accomplishments. You live in a republic. You are educated and well off by virtue of their thoughtful and difficult labors. What we inherited, we have a responsibility to pass on. We are not doing a good job of that. So we are not so smart.

      Why didn’t they include the Indians? The Indians regarded themselves as separate. They only included the Indians who paid taxes.

      Why only three fifths for the slaves? The slave owners, latter devoutly represented by the Democratic Party, were greedy. They wanted more representatives than their share of electorate should have allowed. Slaves don’t vote. To get the slave states into the Union and to stop the importation of more slaves after 1808 (Article 1, Section 9 of the Constitution), the framers agreed upon a couple of compromises. They hoped that the economics of slavery would lead to its demise. Slave labor is highly inefficient. Unfortunately, the invention of the cotton gin increased the profitably of growing cotton which is a high maintenance crop.

    2. BTW – One of the reasons the Liberal Democrats and Establishment Republicans want the illegal immigrants is that like slaves, they provide inexpensive labor. People are always trying to enslave other people to their desires. Nothing new.

      1. This.
        America does not need foreign workers to come to America to work. There are plenty of unskilled America workers who will work unskilled jobs if companies paid American market wages instead of something just above Mexican market wages. There are also plenty of skilled American workers who do not need to be replaced by companies abusing the foreign skilled worker permit system. If there is a shortage of skilled workers, companies can do what they did in the past… sponsor scholarships and develop training programs.

        It is only when illegal workers, paid under the table below minimum wage and without Social Security, unemployment insurance, etc., are allowed to enter the equation, they become Jobs Americans Won’t Do… because they are Jobs Americans Can’t Do… or they will have to live a third world lifestyle until the IRS catches up to them.

        1. The above, of course, is complicated due to hideous government restrictions, regulations, and expenses on labor that make it financially necessary for companies to cut corners where they can. A lot of that needs to change too.

        2. @anon

          Since George W. Bush spoke about jobs Americans won’t, I wonder how many times that phrase has been flung back into the faces of open borders activists. What a wonderful gift he inadvertently gave us! That phrase illustrates perfectly what the Establishment wants, cheap labor, that is, slaves.

  3. What folly we descended to! The left derangement syndrome is predictable and annoying.

    It is certainly not against the constitution to ask the question. If it is, then eliminate questions about race, gender, etc.

    From your favorite last night … Tucker. Takes on Cesar Vargas (an illegal immigrant).

    1. Cesar Vargas is definitely a smooth talking character with quite the sob story.

      I sympathize with the desire of poor people to come to the USA. However, we need to consider the fact that there are almost 7.5 billion people in the world. If we keep allowing people to flood into our country even at the current rate we will soon be an irreversibly multilingual nation (at least in our lifetimes). That, by itself, will severely damage our unity, and that’s only the beginning. All we have to do is look where these people are coming from to figure out what they will do to the USA. Therefore, letting masses of poor people into the USA does not solve the problem of their poverty. It just wreaks havoc on the USA.

      Consider how corrupt the people supporting this nonsense have to be. When someone becomes an American citizen, we expect their first loyalty to be to the USA. When we let people come to the USA willy-nilly and just settle here, we don’t know who we are getting. They could be criminals, or they could have contagious diseases. They may never learn to speak English. They may just go on welfare. Meanwhile, Democrats are happy to let such people vote because they are happy to use taxpayer dollars to buy the votes of even illegal immigrants.

      So I don’t care about Vargas’ sob story. As far I am concerned, the man is a criminal who is trying to turn my country into the same crooked, impoverished mess he says his mother helped him escape.

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