ARE YOU PRO-ABORTION? — PART 2

Here we continue the series ARE YOU PRO-ABORTION?. Part 1 answered a question, What Is An Economic Abortion?  Here were consider a second question.

What Is A “Bipartisan Agreement”?

In two previous posts, DEATH THROES OF A DYING REPUBLIC? and A GOOD DEAL?, I complained about the “bipartisan agreement” that Establishment Democrats and Republicans had concocted.

Check out how the rascals use the phrase “bipartisan agreement” => https://www.brainyquote.com/topics/bipartisan. They make the phrase sound like something holy and sacred. In practice, however, whenever someone calls himself “bipartisan”, we need only wonder which band of thieves this guy is with. Whenever Establishment Democrats and Republicans obtain “bipartisan agreement”, that almost always means that they have agreed upon some vampiric scheme to parasitize the US economy for the sake of some of their special interest donors.

We have grown too use to these vampires sucking on us. Even when their schemes involve borrowing huge amounts of money, we now struggle to become alarmed. So it is that even renowned Conservative, Rush Limbaugh, responded to a caller fatalistically.

RUSH: Scott, Jacksonville, Florida. Great to have you on the program, sir. What’s up.

CALLER: iPhone X mega dittos. Conservatives like myself, Rush, I mean, we voted for Republicans hoping to roll back all this government spending. And now I hear today that Congress, the Senate and the House, they’ve come to this agreement, everybody’s happy, and listen, I’m a Navy veteran. I’m glad for more military spending, but this is gonna add $300 billion to the deficit, so my question, Rush, is how do we as conservatives kind of justify this?

RUSH: You know, it’s a great question, and I was communicating with some friends before the program today on this, and I was telling them — I probably should not admit this, because it changes for me day to day. But I have to tell you, this whole budget thing, I think I’m immune to it now. I realized I’ve been caught up in this budget business for as long as I’ve been hosting this program, and I realized a couple things.

Spending never decreases. There’s one time in 30 years where the budget was balanced, in 1995, for one year, I think, yeah, ’95, ’96. Other than that, this is smoke and mirrors. The budget, we never spend less money than we spent the year before. We always spend more, no matter who we elect and no matter who’s in the White House and who runs Congress.

And then I got to realizing that I think one of the reasons so many Republicans are signing on to this is a silly reason, but in their world it makes sense. We’ve got, if this happens, a two-year budget deal, right? You know what that means? They don’t have to worry about being blamed for a government shutdown for two years! That alone is worth signing it, is it not? They’re probably gonna throw a party tonight because they’re not gonna be blamed for a government shutdown.

Every time we get an increase in military spending, there is no accompanying cutback anywhere else, despite the fact the news today: Food stamp enrollment drops by four million in one month. You think we’re gonna cut the food stamp program? Hell’s bells, no way. Whoever runs these budget departments doesn’t want less money than they had last year. We advertise for food stamp recipients when we begin to lose them. We gotta keep the budget.

I know I’m sounding kind of cynical here, but it’s not cynicism. It’s a realization that all the arguments, the budget fight every year is the best weapon the Democrats have to portray Republicans as racists, sexists, bigots, homophobes, of no compassion, who hate and want to starve kids. It never changes. Meanwhile, we’re told that the national debt’s gonna wipe us out, that the deficit’s gonna wipe us out. We’ve gotta get a handle on the deficit. It’s growing because the national debt is growing. (continued here)

So are Establishment Democrats and Republican trying to wreck the economy? No. These creatures of the dark — these soulless smiling beasts who compose their schemes in secret and bring forth their legislative bills suddenly in the night — these compassionate vampires understand that it is their best interests not to kill their hosts. Pity them. For in their hunger and their greed, they can miscalculate. They are only soulless, smiling vampires, creatures with deceiving toothy grins. Spending, not budgeting, is their forte. Eventually they will miscalculate, and our economy will crumple, and the poor beasts will loose their meal plan. We will have no blood left for them to drink. We will owe our next meal, the roofs over our heads, and the clothes on our backs to lenders. Those lenders will feed upon dead and putrefying flesh, the remains of a once great nation.

Meanwhile, we can watch our debt grow in real time. Impressive! Is it not?

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

What we cannot see is how that debt feeds — how those vampires are feeding — upon the future of our children and grandchildren.

To Be Continued

  • Part 3: How Do Our Votes Make Difference?

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  1. Vampires Great!

    I think Trump knows if we don’t now do something to stimulate the economy, even if it means more debt, our Nation the dollar will be worthless.

    If that happens, it will be a big disaster for all the holders of dollars in both the USA and foreign hands. That’s what is known as hyperinflation.

    Everyone who ever misused a charge card knows at some point they know longer have the means to pay the interest accumulates on the principal to allow them to feed, cloth, and house themselves on their salaries.

    Fortunately, in the USA, bankruptcy laws forgive the debt and the card holder’s credit rating is destroyed.

    All the foreign holders of USA dollars know the risk of the dollar default is rising and that is why they are in a fire sale to buy up USA farmland, businesses, and real assets now.

    Kinda like a vampire or birds in the wild knows to seek prey for blood before there are no more victims blood to be had.

    ’The early bird gets the worm.”

    Regards and goodwill blogging.

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    1. Thanks for the great comment!

      Vampires is the best term I could come up with. There is something lifeless and dead about people who can shamelessly grin, lie, make endless promises, joyfully steal from people who trust them, and so forth with a loving kiss on the neck of their hypnotized victims.

      Trump’s budget includes cuts, but I don’t think that budget cuts are his focus. The problem is Congress, and both Republicans and Democrats measure their personal success in how much bacon they bring home. Why? We vote for the politicians who bring home the bacon. We vote for the politicians who promise us most heartily to give us what belongs to someone else.

      Look again at https://citizentom.com/2018/02/10/are-you-pro-abortion-part-1/. We don’t care enough about each other. We don’t even love our children and grandchildren enough to leave them unburdened by our debt. Yet we are perfectly capable of paying our own bills. In fact, we should be leaving our children a legacy, not IOUs.

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  2. Are you pro abortion? Kind of like asking if someone is pro tooth extraction… Or pro any other medical procedure that is legal, safe, and deemed medically necessary by the patient in consultation with their doctor and their Family

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    1. Well, if that is your attitude, then you have no reason to be offended by the question, and obviously you are.

      So I have a couple more questions just for you, questions you may find less silly.
      1. When is destroying an unborn child “medically necessary”?
      2. What has “medically necessary” got to do with the vast majority of abortions?

      No doubt you will find some obscure occasions when giving birth might involve some risk to the mother of an unborn child. However, most of the time some guy and gal just participate in what they consider recreational sex, and the gal gets pregnant as a result. That can be so inconvenient. So what is their solution? How can they resolve this awful dilemma? They don’t want the child!

      As it happens, the “wise” tell us that an unborn child can be removed like an infected tooth, and that is a good thing. Who wants a world full of unwanted children? So why not abort the unborn? Only our consciences will complain.

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        1. Abortion is a relatively new innovation, but the desire to get rid of inconvenient children is not. In ancient Rome, the paterfamilias had eight days to decide whether to get rid of a newborn infant. The common practice of that day is known as “exposure”. The early Christian church slowly ended the practice of exposure.

          For all practical purposes, exposure has made a comeback. Instead of leaving infants to die on a hillside or dung heap, the wise and caring now pay doctors to destroy babies before they are born.

          You say that abortion is a decision that belongs between a doctor, a patient, and her family? That leaves out the victim, doesn’t it? Is that because to you a baby is just an aching tooth?

          When their parents demonstrate they are unwilling to accept responsibility, we use the power of government to protect minors. Because the young and the weak cannot protect themselves, government must.

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        2. God put a conscience inside you, Mikey. That’s not “doing nothing”.
          Here’s my prayer to end abortion.

          “Mighty, Eternal, Holy God,
          Remind Mike that slicing up unborn babies is unspeakably evil. May he lift his head up from his selfish conceit long enough to see this truth. Convict him of his wickedness. Reveal his wretched depravity. Shatter his self-righteousness and let him see the abomination he is.
          Amen.”

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        3. Nope… That didn’t work either. Maybe God doesn’t interfere with heart and mind anymore than he intervenes in the case of abortion. Maybe he’s just not interested enough.

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        4. Notice I didn’t pray for God to interfere with heart and mind.
          If you bothered to be introspective before firing off your petulant replies, you might realize that you’re feeling conviction. Shame. Guilt. This is God actively working to guide you toward the truth. He’s not going to crack open your head and pour righteousness into your brain. The first step toward God requires humility.

          Your willful wickedness is not God’s fault. As you’re so fond of saying, “that’s all about you”.

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        5. Oh well, John and Tom. I guess I’ll need to do a response post on prayer and abortion, and theodicy as further answer. Thx again for the prompt

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        6. I am star? I guess I must be if you can just tell your readers you are talking about a post Tom wrote, and they know what post you are talking about. Frankly, I wonder how much what is going on in your head bears any relationship to reality.

          I don’t claim to be expert about prayer. This post is not even about prayer. So I find it curious that your assault on my post focused on that.

          Consider Romans 8:28.

          Romans 8:28 New King James Version (NKJV)

          28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.

          Consider the complexity of that task, working all things for the good of those who love Him from the perspective of Eternity. How? What is He doing at any moment? I don’t have the answers to those questions. What do I know about Eternity?

          Does my gaping ignorance stop me from praying? No. Then what do I pray for? Do I ask for mercy from God for myself and for others? Yes, but why? Do I believe God doesn’t know? Of course not. Prayer brings comfort. Putting our needs into words brings comfort. Reminding ourselves that God knows and cares brings comfort.

          We all go through crises, suffer loss and pain. We all turn to God then. Christian, Atheist, Pagan, Muslim,…. Once we get desperate enough and don’t know what to do or who to turn to, we beg God for mercy. How does God answer? Sometimes we know, and sometimes we don’t know.

          God has a plan. Do our prayers change His plans? Since He made His plan knowing we would pray, it doesn’t seem likely. That’s why there is only one wholly rational reason to pray. We want to be part of God’s plan. We want to know what He wants us to do.

          Still, we are only human, and God is our Father. So when we hurt or people we care about need help, we pray. The Bible says we should, and sometimes it seems from our perspective that God answers our prayers. Of course, He already knew we would pray.

          So what is it you are condemning about prayer? That there is no One to answer our prayers? Yet there is. When God does not answer prayers the way we insist He should, He is not the the problem.

          James 4:1-6 New King James Version (NKJV)
          Pride Promotes Strife

          4 Where do wars and fights come from among you? Do they not come from your desires for pleasure that war in your members? 2 You lust and do not have. You murder and covet and cannot obtain. You fight and war. Yet you do not have because you do not ask. 3 You ask and do not receive, because you ask amiss, that you may spend it on your pleasures. 4 Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. 5 Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, “The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously”?

          6 But He gives more grace. Therefore He says:

          “God resists the proud,
          But gives grace to the humble.”

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        7. Please save the lesson. I taught it for 25yrs and believed it wholeheartedly for 34. It’s just not true. I hope one day you are able to see it. Thx tom

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        8. I saw your post, and I have debated you before. I have a fair appreciation of what you know about the Bible.

          Note also that you are not the only reader of this blog. You commented. You wrote a post about the subject. You directed your readers here. If I decide to post a comment on my own blog, just think of it as an answer to your prayers, or not. In either case, you asked for it, and God gave me the ability to reply.

          How well did I do? One day we will both know.

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        9. Hey mike-

          Sorry, but you are in a foreign country when it comes to talking to believers on such fine blogs as this. Did you actually read and truly consider just exactly what CT just offered you by way of his comment? You see, we actually speak from a place that apparently you are unfamiliar with. We have not been deconned. We believe the scriptures present prayer as a deep need implanted in humanity by the Creator, to remind us primarily that we are not God, and secondly, that we are dependent in him for all things.

          Unless of course some fine folks like you see none greater than yourself, and have ruled out His existence because He does not cater to your insolence. Prayer makes good people better people.

          And for two cents, it is insulting to hear you consistently try to insinuate that decent people could be better served by fleeing like precious faith, and returning to the void of godlessness.

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        10. Well tkx,, and i’m hoping what has spoken to you finds good ground, if not today,, tomorrow.

          But God’s word will remain good, long after we are gone. And people will still pray.

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        11. John’s prayers get answered the way God chooses. We belong to God.

          The main point of prayer is to know what God wants us to do, not to tell Him what we want Him to do. Kind of stupid to tell God what to do.

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        12. “Please save the lesson. I taught it for 25yrs and believed it wholeheartedly for 34. It’s just not true. I hope one day you are able to see it. Thx tom

          Before I frequented this blog, I had no idea how many cultish blogs on atheism there are out there. Your non-faith must be on very shaky ground if you need so much reaffirmation and validation of your nonfaith from strangers on the internet.
          Also odd how intent you are on spreading your non-faith.

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        13. @KIA

          The technically correct term that describes your conduct is “apostate”.

          1-3 John describes what you do fairly well. What follows are some of the key passages.

          This passage points out that you never actually believed in the salvation offered by Jesus.

          1 John 2:18-19 New King James Version (NKJV)

          18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.

          Here John tells how to distinguish between those who love the Word of God and those who don’t.

          1 John 4:1-3 New King James Version (NKJV)

          4 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

          This passage tells us once again how to distinguish between good and bad teachers. It adds that believers must not support the work of apostates. When ColorStorm, for example, refuses to allow the comment section in his blog to be used as a billboard for apostate screeds, he is just obeying the Word of God.

          2 John 7-11 New King James Version (NKJV)

          7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.

          9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; 11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.

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        14. Tom, you never answered my question whether God also had made a decision about abortion by his not doing anything either as you said to me. Has God washed his hands of the killing of the unborn children like Pilate did of Jesus, as you applied to me?

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        15. I answered your question, Pastor Mike. Did you not comprehend it?

          God has given YOU a conscience that informs you the killing of babies is an abominable evil. God has also given YOU free will to decide whether or not to speak up against wickedness. YOU are “washing your hands” of abortion when you arrogantly suggest we pray that God magically eliminates evil. In order to do that, He would need to remove your ability to be your delightful self. He would have to transform you (against your will) into an entirely new being.

          YOU have chosen to go to war with the creator of reality. It’s no wonder your comments are worthless tripe.

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        16. Just to add, that was a very good response on the topic of prayer, Citizen Tom.
          I can see why cultish atheists consider your words a threat to their non-faith.

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  3. As I mentioned in the other thread, this chart illustrates the problem:

    Here is the defense (discretionary) spending chart over time, for comparison.

    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/spending_chart_1900_2020USp_XXs2li011tcn_30f_Defense_Spending_in_20th_Century

    We have a problem. Because, unlike most other countries, we have defense commitments around the globe. We could abandon those commitments, that’s an option. But we don’t have the option of going on as we are, as a little boy holding the dike with all his digits (fingers and toes now). Mattis is right.

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  4. Abortion, or killing, and unborn baby in a mother’s womb to some people’s view is rationalized as a right to an individual choice and Right.

    To a faith believer, though, the choice is not theirs anymore. Kinda like, once you have chosen to play a game of cards, you are dealt cards, if you chose to throw in the hand you have been dealt, it means you will never gain any possibility of winning the greatest game in life.

    How you will be judged in death for your hand, only God knows.

    This much I do know about a card game. If you decide to play the game, you must ante up first in order to play. If you don’t want to accept losing your ante, is the only sure, wise, and rational game choice to decide before you ante up, in my opinion.

    Or perhaps couple should take note of this ancient advice.

    “Intercourse brings on lactation.”

    Regards and goodwill blogging.

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