A flowering cannabis plant (from here)

I spent years in college dormitories during the 70’s.  At the end that period, I was not actually in a dorm. Instead I was in a two bedroom apartment. To deal with the overflow, the college put us up in an apartment complex and bused us to campus.  It did not take long before I saw my roommates taking advantage of the situation. After a pot party and waking up to find my roommate had a young woman in bed with him (two separated events), I decided to seek my own quarters. Why? I was not a Christian then, but I had been brought up as one. So that sort of behavior rankled. I liked my roommates, but I did not want to be forced to approve of blatantly bad behavior.

Could I have expressed my feelings back then? No. In fact, my thoughts were rather shallow.

  • I knew having sex with someone other than my wife was wrong, but all I thought of was the possibility of pregnancy and disease. I did not yet understand the importance or the significance of the two becoming one.
  • Smoking marijuana mostly struck me as foolish. It was not unusual to walk down a dorm hall and smell something that stank. Soon I figured out what that stink was, and then I had only one thought. People are inhaling that? I had watched what tobacco and alcohol had done to my father. So I wanted no part of a drug that combined the worst features of both, but I gave little thought of how such bad behavior might affect others.

Anyway, the focus here is on marijuana.  So how did — how does — the use of an illegal drug effect others? Well, I understand some people see nothing wrong with using marijuana. Supposedly, inhaling that reeking stench only puts thrill seekers temporarily and slightly out of their minds. Nonetheless, marijuana remains illegal, and that means that in addition to setting a bad example for the gullible (like college students), when we use marijuana and other illegal drugs we fund criminal networks.

Purchasing illegal drugs is an immoral act, regardless of where one stands in the legalization debate. When drugs are legally prohibited, criminal organizations assume control of production and distribution, making violence inherent in the process. Drug proceeds are used to fund criminal and terrorist organizations, enabling them to murder innocent people, attack police and military, bleed our tax dollars, and destroy the rule of law.

Drugs are a major source of income for terrorist groups and other criminal organizations, due to the high profit margins in these illegal markets. For example, one kilogram of heroin costs $2,500-$5,000 in Afghanistan and it sells for $60,000-$90,000 in the United States. That same kilogram is worth approximately $1.5 million after is it diluted and divided into individual dosage units. Profits made from illegal drug sales are also unreported income, allowing unlawful enterprises to remain in the shadows.

There is a strong nexus between drug trafficking and terrorism. According to DEA’s FY2016 Performance Budget Congressional Submission, 22 of 59 designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations had possible ties to drug trafficking. This number is probably low, because evidence is difficult to obtain, and it doesn’t address two recently designated terrorist groups. As an example, Afghanistan produces most of the world’s opium, morphine, and heroin. In Afghanistan, drug producers, traffickers, and transporters have deep connections to the Taliban, Haqqani network, and other terrorist groups. Drug traffickers use terrorists for protection and terrorists use drug traffickers to fund their activities. (from here)




  1. Back in the 1970’s I attended a festival at Amherst College.

    The organization sponsoring the event had rented the dorms for attendees.

    I was so surprised to find out that the college had designated co-ed dorms. That is to say men and women lived in the same halls and shared bathrooms.

    That really was an example of how our educational institutions really are a strong corrupting force in our society.

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    1. @silenceofmind

      I think this sort of thing is an indication of the problem we run into with government owned and operated schools. Given a choice, how many mothers and fathers would put up with co-ed dorms?


  2. medical reasons I can live with—recreational drug…as in that sounds like an oxymoron…I cannot live with—as a long time educator–I know without a shadow of a doubt….pot is a gateway drug that has physical lasting effects on the body—especially in males…
    This whole legalize business is pure foolishness, irresponsibility and selfishness.

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    1. Yeah. I agree, but the issue is what do we do about it? I don’t have an easy answer. However, I can see we are not doing it right. I think the focus needs to be on education, and I think a government-run education system doesn’t instill that values that young people need to resist drug addiction.

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  3. I have no problem with people making their own choices to drug themselves and die early.

    I do have problem when their choices affect me, or a community I live in. Both drugs and alcohol have significant higher risk factors on public roadways.

    You relate violating a law as immoral. So if we change a law to make it legal, does that make it moral?

    Laws are supposed to maintain order. Making marijuana legal will just add more risk to innocent drivers. Alcohol prohibition did not work, however, at least the police have a way to enforce the law to penalize drivers after an accident.

    No way yet to do that with drugs. Until there is a way, marijuana should be against the law because we know it poses a higher risk on the roadways, in my opinion.

    If interested, check out my last post on Illinois trying next to legalize marijuana.

    Why the media and the government is silent about all the people who buy drugs from criminals are in fact aiding crime in their communities is beyond my comprehension. If fact it makes a drug user an accomplice in all the crimes and killing, or in other words, partners in crimes and the immorality of criminal acts associated with drugs and drug cartels.

    Regards and goodwill blogging.



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    1. @scatterwisdom

      I don’t think getting drunk is moral. I don’t think getting stoned is moral. When someone is addicted, I think it is a moral problem, a mental illness, and a physical sickness.

      Is what a drug pusher does morally upright? No. However, the person primarily at fault is the drug abuser. Yet we focus our ire primarily on the drug pusher.

      You want to know what I think of alcoholic beverage and tobacco companies. If they all ceased to exist, I would not lose any sleep. I would just thank God. Nevertheless, the addicts would still be with us, and they would still be trying to get a fix. Prices would skyrocket, and we would soon have plenty of a alcoholic beverage and tobacco companies.

      There is no simple way to dissuade people from drugging themselves. At least, I don’t know of one. I just know that when we focus on the pusher instead of the drug abuser we don’t accomplish very much that is useful.

      If you read my previous comments, then you may have observed I don’t have much interest in politicians treating addictive drugs as anything particularly special. What I seek from the government is the protection of our rights. If someone caught doing something dangerous to the life and limbs of others while under the influence of some addictive drug, then I think they should be punished. And there are tests to detect most drugs, including marijuana. The problem with marijuana is determining whether someone is intoxicated. Marijuana can cause undesirable side effects, which increase with higher doses. These side effects include: decreased short-term memory, dry mouth, impaired perception and motor skills, and red eyes. If policemen stop someone exhibiting such symptoms, they should be able to do a field test (and film it) like they use to do for alcohol intoxication (did not use to have that breathalyzer). If the subject fails the field test, then they can be drug test.

      Just like we do for smokers, we should make the lives of drug addicts difficult. There is no reason employers should have to hire people who abuse drugs. Drug addicts should be ashamed of their habit, and those who experiment with addictive drugs should be shamed as foolish. Instead, we have an advertisers and an entertainment industry that glorifies the use of alcohol and tobacco products and even treats marijuana as something desirable. If we don’t like people doing that, then we should refrain listening to broadcasters and visiting the websites that promote the use of addictive drugs.

      At the same time, I think we should encourage the formation of private charities devoted to helping addicts. When the government sets up a charitable organization, that organization tend to become a political constituency. Then instead of being about helping people, that organization starts helping itself.

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    2. “Alcohol prohibition did not work, however, at least the police have a way to enforce the law to penalize drivers after an accident.

      No way yet to do that with drugs. Until there is a way, marijuana should be against the law because we know it poses a higher risk on the roadways, in my opinion. ”

      In many states/jurisdictions, the law is no longer limited to driving while intoxicated (DWI), it is now driving under the Influence (DUI). DUI covers most drugs: pot, acid, coke, etc. The fun comes in trying to determine if the person is DUI or DWS (driving while stupid) prior to the stop. The later is not a citable offence.

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      1. In my opinion, any law that has no substance only fosters disrespect for the law.

        Since there is no practical way for policeman to prove a driver is drugged out of his senses, if arrested with no proof positive, the judge will not convict anyone.

        At least police can enforce DUI with blood samples. Cannot do the same with drugs.

        So any laws that include drugs are just words. Legalize and the number of car accidents will rise as already proven in states that have legalized marijuana.

        Thanks for the comment.

        Regards and goodwill blogging


        1. Sorry, but there are ways to test for impairment. There are signs of impairment/intoxication police are trained to look for. There are road side tests and blood tests that can be used. you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a person is under the influence of drugs.

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          1. Two problems.

            One, police usually are involved after an accident happens.

            Two, not all accidents are caused by someone totally drugged out of their senses. If mildly out of their senses, they cannot be detected, again, after the accident.

            When you increase the availability of any good, or bad thing, you also increase the risks associated with the good, or bad thing.

            Sure wish we could find a way to increase more good things than bad things in our communities, including roads.

            Regards and goodwill blogging.

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          2. Agreed. While LEOs are taught some of the signs of impairment, too often said impairment only becomes an issues after someone else has been injured. Man, being Man, will tend to chose the “fun” thing over the “right” thing.


        2. @scatterwisdom

          When people break the law, there is no good, simple answer. When parents and communities do not raise children to respect and voluntarily obey the law, we have already failed.

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  4. Amen Brother. Of course marijuana should be available as medication, if it’s true that it is really useful. But legalize? No way. High school in the 70’s was enough to convince me (totally as an observer) that pot has permanent effects on the user’s abilitiy to think critically.

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    1. @madblog

      I expect you will be somewhat disappointed by my position on legalization. I oppose breaking the law, but…. Well, see how I replied to Tricia’s and insanitybytes22’s comments.

      Admittedly, I have no desire to legalize all illegal drugs yesterday. I am not exactly sure what would happen. I suspect it might be a good idea to get the government out of the education business first. We are not raising the most responsible citizens these days.


  5. This is an interesting and complicated topic. I had friends in college who wanted pot and other drugs decriminalized, regulated by the government, and taxed. Would substance abuse still be immoral if it was legal? Is pot something one can consume moderately without self-harm? (Like the proverbial one glass of one with dinner.) What about cocaine and heroin? There are no clear lines easily drawn. J.

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    1. @Salvageable

      I don’t have any special wisdom. For what it is worth you can see Tricia’s and insanitybytes22’s comments and see how I replied.

      Most people don’t regard the growth or sale of tobacco as respectable businesses anymore. Alcohol and marijuana are actually more harmful, but naive people don’t seem to think so. Why is that? I don’t know. I am perpetually amaze by our capacity to rationalize and avoid the truth.

      Rationalization is something I would like to think that just other people do, but I expect that would be a rationalization.

      Psalm 26:1-3 New King James Version (NKJV)

      26 Vindicate me, O Lord,
      For I have walked in my integrity.
      I have also trusted in the Lord;
      I shall not slip.
      2 Examine me, O Lord, and prove me;
      Try my mind and my heart.
      3 For Your lovingkindness is before my eyes,
      And I have walked in Your truth.

      Think about it. David wanted to be vindicated because he did not believe he had been vindicated. We now know how that vindication works. It is Jesus’ holiness, His merit that vindicates us, not our own.

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  6. Interesting, Tom! Bit funny, but I am deathly allergic to two things,honeysuckle and marijuana. It made growing up in the 60’s a real pain. I walk by a thick cloud of smoke and it is instant tears, gasping for breath,and hives.

    We are all about the “Goddess of Green” where I live and pot is legal. It wasn’t until I heard that term “Goddess of Green” that I really understood my objection. This kind of addictive,idolatrous, almost cult like worship of a plant gives me pause. I have some farther concerns too, although it’s rare, there is some research that suggests that people who are genetically prone to schizophrenia can be triggered by environmental factors like THC. Add in some genetic engineering and the high potencies that we’re dinkering with now, and we have even more issues, paranoia,psychosis.

    Smoking the leaves of a plant may be relatively harmless to most people,but human nature never,ever leaves it there. We suck the opium out of poppies, draw cocaine out of coco leaves, and refine our pot until we have an even “better,” more powerful substance. Nobody really knows what high, genetically manipulated doses can do to us. We’re going to find out.

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    1. @insanitybytes22

      Had not considered the allergy problem, but some folks are allergic to tobacco. So I guess I should have expected that.

      Not familiar with the Goddess of Green, but I am definitely not in favor of smoking marijuana. However, like Tricia I favor its legalization. I think it should be regulated so we have truth in advertising. I also think giving that crap to children should result in jail time.

      With respect to something, we all have a tendency addictive, idolatrous, almost cult like worship. Many of us make idols of sex, some sort of stuff, the state, or our self. Since our idols make us vulnerable to manipulation, we need to examine our motivations and then think about the scheming nature of some of the people we vote for.

      Consider. When people get addicted to something, what the most conniving politicians will do is tax the addicts. Supposedly, they are doing the addicts a big favor, but all the politicians want is more money to spend. So they are perfectly happy to get people hooked.

      Sound absurd? Then consider how politicians treat things like cigarettes, alcohol, lotteries, gambling casinos. All these things we associate with addictive behaviors, and all these things politicians have use to acquire additional funds with special taxes.


  7. I’m not a marijuana fan either but I think it should be legal. From what I know it’s no more harmful than alcohol and bringing it off the black market will eliminate the money drug traffickers get from it. Stronger and more addictive drugs like opiates though should remain illegal outside of medically prescribed use.

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    1. @Tricia

      There are three separate issues. One is whether marijuana and other drugs should be legal. The second is how we regulate legal drugs. The third is obedience to the law, whatever it is.

      Generally, I favor the legalization of most drugs. I think the whole idea of prescription drugs absurd, but some people think we need a nanny state. Of course, if we take a medicine, particularly a powerful one, then the smart thing to do is to get a prescription from a doctor. However, If someone has been taking something for months or years, why should they need a prescription? It is just a nuisance.

      Really, the issue should be insurance. If an insurance company is covering part of the cost, then how they determine whether the expense is between the insurance company and the patient.

      When people abuse drugs, we should try to figure out why those people want to poison themselves. The drug has no will in the matter. The person does.

      Anyway, I think it would be a good idea to slowly and methodically legalizes all prohibited drugs and focus on helping addicts get off the damnable stuff. If the only way we can keep people from getting addicted is to prohibit some drugs, that is what we should do. However, I don’t believe that is the case.

      What exception would I make? If someone gives a drug to a minor or an unsuspecting victim, I would lock them up and throw away the key.

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      1. My Libertarian side agrees with your sentiment Tom of legalizing all or most drugs. My heart though, perhaps unreasonably, pulls me against this. Addiction is such an overpowering force and has such catastrophic effects that I just can’t see how legalizing the more powerful substances, or not requiring a prescription for things like opioids would be anything short of a disaster. A very slow and target implantation of legalization would be needed.


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