CASE STUDY OF A LIE: THE POST MODERN MUCKRAKER AT WORK: AN UPDATE

Clinton testifying before the House Select Committee on Benghazi on October 22, 2015 (from here)
Clinton testifying before the House Select Committee on Benghazi on October 22, 2015 (from here)

UPDATE:  I typed the time when Donald Trump gets the question about PTSD incorrectly. The subject came up at ~113 minutes into the video below. My apologies.

Want to insult Donald Trump?  Loose Lips Hillary has “generously provided her fans a fact sheet just for that purpose.  Let’s take one of those “facts” and consider just how truthful it might be.

Yahoo: “Trump on PTSD: Some veterans aren’t strong enough to ‘handle it’”

Most soldiers do not get PTSD. Most people have sufficient mental resilience to get through combat without a mental breakdown. Most people can handle the dreadful experiences the horrible experience of combat and carry on. Otherwise, the human race would be extinct.  Nevertheless, some people, are vulnerable to PTSD. Why? Well, we treat it as a medical issue because that is what it is.

So did Donald Trump insult veterans with PTSD? No. Sometimes the death of a thousand cuts is self-inflicted, and sometimes we called it a muckraking campaign.

Is Loose Lips Hillary’s accusation true?  No. What Donald Trump did is use plain language. Nevertheless, about 20 minutes into this video Loose Lips Hillary attacks Donald Trump for belittling veterans with PTSD =>Full video: Clinton calls Trump’s comments on PTSD “troubling”. She did so in spite of the fact there are sources that point out that Trump did not insult veterans with PTSD.

What did Trump say in context? The video below provides that. Trump spoke to Retired American Warriors at their town Hall in Herndon, VA. The question pops up at ~113 minutes into the video below.

Did the audience react as if Trump had said anything wrong? No.

Most of Loose Lips Hillary’s campaign consists of smearing her opponent, but these kinds of lies are almost transparent. If we believe them, what is our excuse? We believe the news media? We trust the news media? What kind of fool does that? That is something to think about.

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5 thoughts on “CASE STUDY OF A LIE: THE POST MODERN MUCKRAKER AT WORK: AN UPDATE

  1. Stephen

    As a veteran and someone who is intimately and professionally connected, Trump’s words were insensitive. I do not blame him for it; most people don’t understand the realities of PSTD and the stigma it carries in the armed forces today.

    I am not alone in thinking this. Many solid veteran associations, including the American Legion and the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, agree. Does it reflect badly on Trump? I think so but not in the way some seem to be painting it. Biden’s comments were probably the fairest critique from the other side, especially when you consider that his late son was a veteran and had those experiences.

    Trump should apologize, plain and simple. It doesn’t make him a monster; it makes him like everyone else in the nation currently blind to the issue. If he really wants to show he is on our side, then he should apologize.

    Also, so THAT is why traffic on 66 was so bad.

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  2. Tony

    Tom wrote:

    “Most soldiers do not get PTSD. Most people have sufficient mental resilience to get through combat without a mental breakdown. Most people can handle the dreadful experiences the horrible experience of combat and carry on. Otherwise, the human race would be extinct. Nevertheless, some people, are vulnerable to PTSD. Why? Well, we treat it as a medical issue because that is what it is.”

    Actually, the truth is that, given enough prolonged exposure to combat stress, most of us will manifest some level of the mental and physical effects of PTSD. In most of America’s past wars actual life threatening and life taking combat situations have been short in continuous duration for a given serviceperson. Exceptions to that in the past were battles like The Battle of the Bulge and The Battle for Okinawa in which the stress of battle for many soldiers was continuous and prolonged over days. Combat mental stress causualites rose considerably during those engagements. One study during WWII estimated that the average breaking point for a soldier in a continuous combat situation was 88 days. That means that, at some point, nearly all of us would cease to function given enough continuous combat stress. With the near constant car bomb, sniper, mortar and IED threats, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are unique in the amount of time that many of our veterans who served in those wars were both continuously and repeatedly exposed to life threatening combat stress.

    And that is if we just talk about continuous and/or repeated combat stress. The effects of combat related stress can be different based upon intensity and can
    be cumulative. The symptoms of PTSD may also manifest themselves physically as well as mentally, and may not become acute for months and even years after the combat related exposure. Those mental and physical ailments are different both in manifestation and degree for different individuals, and can be difficult to diagnose, especially for the person suffering from them if he or she is in denial.

    Individual mental resilience at the time may not have anything to do with whether the veteran will suffer PSTD long term. And many other factors effect the onset of PTSD, such as morale and training, too many factors to mention here, but many studies are available online. However, given that PTSD can be as disabling as bullets and bombs, both in the short term and uniquely in latent manifestations, to “any” combatant, PTSD needs to be recognized by all of us for what it is, a war related injury, and not a failure of individual stamina and/or character. Some individuals will better survive and recover from exposure to the injuries that might be caused by bullets and bombs than others might, but we don’t stigmatize those who suffer such injuries from bullets and bombs as failures who somehow just could not take it.

    In so far as Donald Trump, I agree unintentionally, perpetuated the stygmatizing of veterans with PTSD related illnesses, I think that his words were unhelpful and ignorant. Did Clinton overplay Trump’s ignorance? Perhaps, but addressing his ignorance and all of our ignorance in this matter needs to be the first step if we are actually going to help veterans and prevent veteran suicides.

    On the other hand Tom, you might want to ask yourself if you are, also I think unintentionally, overplaying Clinton’s overplaying, and doing your own muckraking at the expense actually understanding an important veteran’s issue. No, “most people” cannot handle what many of our veterans have been through. “Most people” will in the stituations that our vets have gone through will get PTSD symptoms to some degree or another and in one manifestation or another, and sometimes years later. Just because most veterans did not get shot or recovered well from their injuries does not mean that those who did get shot and injured are not like most veterans.

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