When I reblogged (here) The omnimalevolence of atheism by insanitybytes22 I just figured most of my readers would just head over to ‘s blog to see what’s so interesting. However some of my readers left some good comments. In fact, PrayThroughHistory and Allallt actually proceeded to have a good debate.
The irony is the “those who call good evil, and evil good” rebuke is that nothing in religious philosophy protects one from making the exact same mistake.
After all, given Adam’s first sin (or was it Eve?), was it not God that scorched the earth and allowed suffering and evil and predation and misery and torture to be rife through the pages of our history (and their future)?
Was it not God that drowned its creation? That turned Lott’s wife to salt?
And religious philosophies would ask that we call that ‘good’. (from here)
Not too long ago I wrote a post on Isaiah 5:20, CALLING WHAT IS EVIL GOOD , AND WHAT IS GOOD EVIL EVIL. Based upon what I have learned from studying the Bible, I think offered a decent reply (here and here). He compared the evil that God allows to what we do when our children do wrong. When our children do wrong, don’t we punish them? If we are God’s children, should we not expect God to punish us? I would just add one thought. If there is no God, then exactly how is it that we know what is evil? We evolved an understanding of evil?
remained unsatisfied. Here is the core of what he said.
Why is the freewill of so many of us destructive? Freewill has an explanation as to its existence. Now, I suspect it is essentially an evolutionary thing. However, within religious worldviews the explanation is essentially theological. I’m not sure how one would square that; freewill can be destructive, yet (presumably) God is the explanation as to where it comes from. (from here)
Think about eternity. Then contemplate how began his reply.
I think the stumbling block in such conversations is akin to the blind men describing the elephant. (from here)
Isn’t our understanding of God and His doings limited to a small segment of time, a tiny spot on a small planet? That’s why I wrote BLIND TO ALL BUT OUR SELF. If we make too much of what we know, we make too much of almost nothing. We can believe the Bible and hope for salvation, but to believe God is evil? What do we know that justifies such an opinion of the God who created everything, a seemingly infinite universe?
I have tackle the Problem of Evil in previous posts.
If I had the definitive answer, I suppose my posts would be famous, but that is not yet the case. I have faith that God is real and good. I hold that belief for what I think rational reasons. Nevertheless, some choose believe otherwise. Why? I think the fundamental problem is this. We tend to think we deserve the very best — when we don’t.
God holds the keys to eternity. He has no reason to share eternity with anyone who is less perfect than Himself. Why should He?
Consider one of the arguments that some people use against traditional marriage. “Who would want to spend their whole life married to the same person?” You don’t want to do that? Then what makes you think God wants to spend eternity with you?
I don’t know much about heaven. I know very little about what will happen after I die. I just know that before I am fit to spend eternity with a Holy God, that God has a great deal of work to do on me. I suppose that is why from time-to-time I think of this verse.
Philippians 1:6 New King James Version (NKJV)
6 being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ;
And if He thinks He has to spank me, my family, my friends, and my neighbors from time-to-time, then so be it. That’s still better than the alternative.