DON’T WE ALREADY HAVE COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM?

customs and immigrationLook up the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986. Google it. That was suppose to be comprehensive immigration reform, but you will find plenty of excuses explaining why it supposedly fell short. Both Democrats and Republicans will make excuses. Leaders in both parties will explain why we need another amnesty (even if they refuse to call it that). However, the primary reason the law did not work is our political leaders never enforced it. Our leaders usually will not admit it, but only the willfully blind could miss something so obvious. Because they provide cheap labor, leaders in both parties want the illegal immigrants, and Democrats want the cheap votes.

So why do our leaders lie to us? Do they know we will not honor our principles and hold them accountable? That does seem to be the case. Consider the latest, the invasion of children across our southern border. Of course, the big corporate news media is not reporting the full story. Instead, they are trying to blame President George W. Bush, Immigrant Surge Rooted in Law to Curb Child Trafficking (www.nytimes.com).

WASHINGTON — It was one of the final pieces of legislation signed into law by President George W. Bush, a measure that passed without controversy, along with a pension bill and another one calling for national parks to be commemorated on quarters. (continued here)

That bill Bush signed in 2008, was that not immigration reform too? That reform also did not work. Is it not strange how these reforms never work? But to be fair, it is difficult to blame a law that isn’t being enforced. Consider what that same New York Times reported in 2012, Obama to Permit Young Migrants to Remain in U.S.

Hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants who came to the United States as children will be allowed to remain in the country without fear of deportation and able to work, under an executive action the Obama administration announced on Friday. (continued here)

So what has the big corporate news media left unsaid? Doesn’t Mexico control its borders? So how are all those children getting through Mexico?

  • Mexico made deal to send more illegal aliens to the U.S. (www.examiner.com)

    On Monday, Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto and Guatemalan president Otto Perez Molina held a joint press conference in Playas de Catazaja, Mexico, to officially announce an agreement to make it easier for those making the illegal journey to the United States from Central America, to cross into Mexico. (continued here)

  • Yes, the Mexican Government is Facilitating the Immigrant Influx from Central America (www.rushlimbaugh.com)

    Well, I took it upon myself to find out, and this is what they are doing.  And this is not from some right-wing outlet.  What I have here is it a story from the Examiner.com, but it’s basically a rewrite of a Spanish language report from El Universal.  “On Monday, Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto and Guatemalan president Otto Perez Molina held a joint press conference in Playas de Catazaja, Mexico, to officially announce an agreement to make it easier for those making the illegal journey to the United States from Central America, to cross into Mexico.” (from here)

  • Mexico, Guatemala fast-track delivery of illegals to U.S. (www.wnd.com)

    Mexico and Guatemala have reached an agreement that is intended to make it easier and safer for Central Americans, including unaccompanied minors, to enter the United States illegally.

    Though largely unreported in the U.S. mainstream media, the two nations agreed on July 7, in a presidential-level meeting in Mexico, to make it legal and safe for Central American immigrants, including unaccompanied minors, to cross Mexico’s border with Guatemala and transit Mexico en route to the U.S. border at the Rio Grande. (continued here)

  • Report: Guatemala-Mexico Border Wide Open (www.breitbart.com)

    CNN National Correspondent Gary Tuchman reported live from the Guatemala-Mexico border, where many of the illegal immigrants entering the United States being their journey, that passage from Guatemala into Mexico is “easy” because the border is unsecured.  (continued here)

We are being played for suckers. Right now we are being ruled by a bunch of liars, and President Barack Obama is our lying king. If we want our government to work, to perform honorably, then we must behave honorably ourselves. Instead of robbing our neighbors and even our own children by voting for government handouts, we must start voting for leaders who just promise they will do their best to protect our rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Otherwise, we and our children will soon have nothing, including those precious rights.

26 thoughts on “DON’T WE ALREADY HAVE COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM?

  1. What ever happened to e-verify and a national ID to prevent the core reason for illegal immigration, jobs? ” Feed them and they will come. ” The US Congress is the real culprit for allowing this problem to continue by not implementing the 1987 amnesty guidelines. Their purposeful blind eye for blocking these two key components and allowing this problem to continue to fester is another sad episode and evidence of their ineptness in my humble opinion.

    Regards and good will blogging.

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    1. As you indicate, we have the tools to control illegal immigration. Unfortunately, We The People have not elected leaders willing to make use of those tools. Therefore, the ineptness you speak of has its beginnings in us.

      Perhaps books such as yours will encourage people to take a second look at the Bible. As the way we are running our country so well demonstrates, we certainly need to make use of its wisdom.

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      1. Frankly, I am coming to the realization that the people that read the bible or are interested in my posts on wisdom, are already righteous minded concerned citizens.. The problem is their voices and actions are muted by a larger majority of people who are not interested, informed, or care about what is happening in the USA.

        Part of the reason may be because so many are working two jobs at minimum wages that when they come home from work, deal with family issues, clean their houses or apartments. they just want to relax and forget or neither have the time or energy to get involved in voter campaign issues.

        Another reason is the news they hear or read is either controlled, propaganda, lies, or purposeful withheld in order to aid the powerful in control to profit.

        What we need most today in Washington is another Teddy Roosevelt type leader to use his bully pulpit techniques to stir up the spirits of US voters. A real wise leader instead of an empty suit politician, along with term limits for all Congress is the solution we need in my humble opinion.

        Regards and good will blogging.

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  2. To answer your lead question, no. We haven’t had major immigration legislation since 1986, which, if my fingers and toes are working properly, was more than 20 years ago (I’ve done this twice now and I keep running out of digits, so I feel rather confident in use of that number). Simpson/Mazolli addressed certain conditions that existed then, and definitely improved somewhat on previous law, but certainly did not address current conditions.

    By the way, what gave this particular president, as opposed to others over the last several decades your title of “lying king”? That sounds rather grand.

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    1. scout – Has it come to this? Will you allow yourself to be reduced to silly sniping, afraid to state the reason for your beliefs?

      James 5:7-12 New King James Version (NKJV)

      Be Patient and Persevering

      7 Therefore be patient, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain. 8 You also be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is at hand.

      9 Do not grumble against one another, brethren, lest you be condemned. Behold, the Judge is standing at the door! 10 My brethren, take the prophets, who spoke in the name of the Lord, as an example of suffering and patience. 11 Indeed we count them blessed who endure. You have heard of the perseverance of Job and seen the end intended by the Lord—that the Lord is very compassionate and merciful.

      12 But above all, my brethren, do not swear, either by heaven or by earth or with any other oath. But let your “Yes” be “Yes,” and your “No,” “No,” lest you fall into judgment.

      Although I have not the patience of Job, I think I can endure a little carping. I also think you can endure our disagreements more gracefully.

      Be egalitarian regarding persons. Be elitist regarding ideas. – Peter Kreeft of Boston College

      I did not insult you personally. I vehemently disagreed with one of your beliefs. Can’t you do the same? If not, then how well can you learn? If we cannot stand criticism, who can teach us?

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    2. I’ve been hospitalized; I arrived home minutes ago. But I see that your behavior is unchanged.

      You reworded Tom’s question into a completely different one, so that you could provide your cutesy (and wrong, of course) answer to that different question.

      Simpson-Mazolli contained provisions to criminalize hiring of illegals, increase enforcement and border security, and addresses current conditions — with the exception of a president who lies about and ignores law as it suits him. A new round of “immigration reform” would accomplish nothing new, as the president would still be the same. Short of impeachment, no laws are safe from this feckless festering flop of a federal executive.

      Obama is perhaps the greatest liar of all US presidents. I can think of none who approach him. And his presumption of power, ignoring the carefully crafted separation of branches, makes his frequent king-like assertions fit nicely into Tom’s appellation. I know folks like you are big into the “Bush lied, people died” business, but in fact Bush was exceptionally honest compared to other recent presidents and failed mostly in this regard in not making the case convincingly, allowing media folks to control the narrative.

      ===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle

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      1. I hope you’re feeling better, Keith. Welcome home from the clutches of the medical establishment.

        I always thought the Clintons to be particularly meretricious, so I would give them the award you seem eager to bestow on the current occupant. I haven’t really seen much from Mr. Obama that convinces me that he is anything other than a reasonably honorable person. I also think both Bushes were personally honorable men. So you are mistaken, in clumping me into the “Bush lied, people died” camp. I do think the Iraq military adventure was completely inimical to America’s interests and reflected an internal groupthink that did profound, if not permanent harm to our country. But personal perfidy on the part of George W doesn’t enter into it, in my view. Not sure where you got that idea.

        Tom asked whether we did not already have comprehensive immigration reform. His reference was to Simpson Mazzoli in 1986. My answer was no. My reasoning was that that legislation has little impact on today’s issues. I don’t think that alters his question (which was in clear, simple English – kudos to Tom – as was my response.

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      2. I had been wondering how you were. Glad to see back in action.

        Since scout wandered off topic, I did not bother replying. However, I appreciate the fact you did. There are times when scout’s logic is so deliberately twisted trying to unknot it is more than I can do. However, you do have that knack. Unfortunately, that doesn’t mean scout wants to learn anything from it. As his reply indicates, he would rather continue making unsupportable assertions. Our government is not even attempting to enforce Simpson-Mazolli, and that is irrelevant? Obama is reasonably honorable?

        I do believe scout is trying to provoke us. What a pathetic way to waste his time.

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  3. Tom, you should read my comments before your reply to them. Then we could have a conversation.

    You didn’t vehemently disagree with one of my beliefs – you asked in your post whether we already had Comprehensive Immigration Reform. I replied no, because we haven’t addressed the issue since 1986, during which time the issues have changed. I don’t see insults there (other than my making fun of my own math-challenged means of doing sums) any more than I see vehement disagreement. Similarly, I don’t see my refusing to state the basis for my opinion. I gave the basis for the opinion.

    Although I generally consider you to have an irrationally quick trigger finger on your scriptural use, if I wanted to adopt that fashion myself in response to your latest comment, I would say that I fully conformed to the author of the James admonition to let my “No” be No.

    As for your inquiry as to why you cannot stand criticism (you and whomever else you perennial “we” happens to be), my thought is that perhaps it is because you (singular or plural, take your pick) sometimes see it when it isn’t there. Simpson-Mazzoli had its reasons and momentum in its day. But it’s long gone. We are on to new issues on our borders. To say that shouldn’t insult you or make you sensitive to criticism. It’s just an observation.

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    1. Scout; I was wondering, you have so much to say… why not start your own blog? We would be able to see what your points of view are and how you articulate it. It’s difficult to actually converse with one who is only disseminating comments.

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  4. Comments are good enough, Phadde. A comment is as useful for discerning a point of view as is a post. Some years ago, I use to post on Too Conservative, but I gave that up because of demands of my family and law practice. The archive is still there if you’re curious. When I retire, an event that is probably about three years in the offing, I may go back to posting on a site, either my own or in collaboration with others, but, for now, I just enjoy the exchange of ideas as a commenter. Thank you, however, for the encouragement.

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        1. I checked, Phadde, and the archive is not in very good shape – at least not as I could access it. It has some kind of corruption in the display. Also, all my bylines are converted to just a generic “Too Conservative”, which was also the handle of the remarkable young man who founded that site, so it’s a little hard to tell on the surface whether a Too Conservative post in the archives is one of mine or one of Vincent’s . However, if you do invest any time in it (and I don’t really encourage that – you probably have better things to do) I think you can pick up on the writing style as to who wrote what.

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        2. Tom – I don’t “want” you and Phadde to believe I am a “Conservative”. I happen to be a conservative, but whether you or anyone else believes it is immaterial to me. All of the contributors to that site were political conservatives and all who were active at the time I was posting in Virginia Republican Party issues and activities.

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        3. I’ve just perused the Too Conservative site, I didn’t look at a lot of stuff in depth, but I did see where you made some comments, and also have a “invite” only blog, interesting…

          I did see NoVA Scout, I also saw that many of the bloggers praised Scout on that blog, so would you say that Scout has changed his rhetoric or that those conservatives that write on the blog are more like scout.

          I guess I am both trying to network different ideas, as well as see how Scout’s conversations are outside of the spectrum of the forum of Citizen Tom .

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  5. In those days it was NoVA Scout and I think I was most active in the 2005 to 2007 period. A lot of the issues then would have no interest now. Some of them, however, linger on.

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  6. That 2006 comment was badly garbled. I think you can extricate me from my own clumsiness but it should have read: “all who were active at the time I was posting [2004-2007] were also engaged in Virginia Republican Party issues and activities”.

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    1. What other blogs do you comment on? I would be interested to see the topics, and the evolution of the commenting on those boards.

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      1. scout has a history of commenting on bvbl.net, virginiavirtucon.wordpress.com, and bearingdrift.com. scout use to argue with a Conservative named James Young, author of the skepticalobservor.blogspot.com. Hence this search will turn up blogs they both frequented.

        Google => “james young” novascout

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  7. Over the past two years, I have pretty much confined myself to this one, Moonhowlings, and Bacon’s Rebellion, all of which have Virginia roots. Bacon’s Rebellion is a particularly substantive blog, one that deals a lot with the nuts and bolts of transportation policy, an area that I have a great interest in. I also occasionally have something to say at Nova Townhall, but usually it’s just kicking over beehives for sport there. That’s a particularly fractious crowd. I’m not sure you’ll find much evolution – I think I am devolving, rather than evolving. But you can form your own judgements on that.

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