Prison Break reblogged from Keith DeHavelle

Why did I reblog this post? Keith DeHavelle begin his post by telling us a story about a person who is a regular commenter here.  expressed his surprise that someone who portrays himself as a lawyer involved with Constitutional issues would not recognize the acronym for the National Lawyers Guild.  What is the National Lawyers Guild?

The National Lawyers Guild

Just a few days ago, I mentioned the National Lawyers Guild (using its abbreviation NLG) to a person who portrayed himself as a lawyer involved with Constitutional issues. The NLG is a group of largely communist, America-hating lawyers and activists founded (along with the ACLU) by liberals and communists including Soviet KGB front people in the 1930s , and have spent the intervening time using the US Constitution to attack America any way they can.

Dancing Wikipedia

Wikipedia does an amusing tap dance about the NLG’s founding. Of course, they had nothing to do with communism:

Contrary to some right-wing thought, the NLG was not sponsored by or related to the Communist Party,

Well, that is clear enough, isn’t it? Not “related to the Communist Party” at all. But wait … that’s a comma at the end, not a period. What follows this?

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26 thoughts on “Prison Break reblogged from Keith DeHavelle

  1. It is both an authorizing and a prohibitive document, Tom. I’ve always thought that (not sure what your “finally” is all about) and I don’t think there are many people at any point on the political spectrum who think otherwise.

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  2. Of course, I did not say that conservative opinion was a “straightjacket.” Nonetheless, it appears we are in agreement (at last). I, of course, (being of conservative inclinations) support “real and substantial limits on government power” such as are found in our Bill of Rights. The necessity of those limitations arise from our Founders’ wariness of the nature of Man, and the nature of political systems run by men. The Founders would not have recognized the term “conservative” in any sense other than care and caution around the grant of power.

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    1. You have finally decided that a Conservative is someone who supports and defends the belief that the Constitution must be read as an authorizing document, one that says what our leaders are allowed to do? Then and only then are we in agreement as to what defines Conservatism.

      Consider that when the Constitution was first passed it did not contain a Bill of Rights. Why? The people who wrote the Constitution did not believe the Constitution empowered the Federal Government to violate our rights. Not willing to take anything for granted, the representatives to state conventions that approved the Constitution insisted upon the addition of a Bill of Rights. Thanks primarily to James Madison, one was added.

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  3. I hope that I am not being too optimistic in sensing a whiff of progress here. I detect in this last comment that you may be coming around to my concern that these labels have been debased of any meaningful value, and are, as Keith kindly requotes me as saying, nothing more than some kind of tribal marker (Crips and Bloods, Jets and Sharks, Shirts and Skins etc.) that is used to short circuit serious thought about significant public issues. As I have noted elsewhere, one of my wisest professors (a man from eastern Europe who barely got out with his skin in the Second World War and who devoted his early life in this country as a covert intelligence operative for the United States and its allies) observed that one of the great strengths of America is that it had never been an ideological nation. Facile, superficial ideological earmarks are generally abused by the political classes to short-circuit public debate. The vitality of America’s democracy over much of its history has been that the nature of governance has tended to be pragmatic, within the broad confines of its genius Constitution. What I see in the shallowness of current usage of terms like “conservative” in an American political context, is the attempted imposition of a political ideology that is essentially antithetical to American values (the same could be said for terms like “liberal”, but, as you note, that phrase doesn’t get used too much by anyone these days). POliticians use these terms to flim-flam voters ( I can’t tell you how many times I have seen national, state, and local pols call themselves “conservatives” because they suspect that’s where the votes are, without having the slightest notion of why their positions on any given issue are “conservative”, “liberal” or somewhere in between by any rational articulation of political philosophy.

    It may be something of an age or demographic factor. I grew up at a time when, at least at the university level, political philosophy was a more rigourous discipline than it is now. We conservatives at that time were imbued with a strong immersion in Hume, Locke, Adam Smith, Burke, and Kirk, with a modern sprinkling of Buckley and Goldwater (to add a political figure to the mix). It simply does not work for us that “Conservative” means a straightjacket of positions on an array of disparate issues in which all of us would come to the same conclusions about, to throw out some examples, government regulation of reproductive decisions, national health care, immigration policy, what happened in Benghazi, trade policy, welfare policy, voter ID, tax policy, responses to economic catastrophes, monetary and fiscal policy, road building, the Postal Service , etc. etc. ad infinitum.

    For us, conservatism was simply a wary suspicion of both the nature of Man and the nature of Governments run by men. In an American context, this meant (and still means for me) a respect for institutions and attributes intended to provide or having the effect of providing societal stability (e.g., church, community, schools, military service, public service,) and a reverence for the Constitution, a document that provides hard points of protection for certain individual liberties, checks and balances against the accretion of overweening power in any one person or sector of government, and latitude to adjust to changing conditions over time.

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    1. I decided to write a post you may find relevant. https://citizentom.com/2014/01/18/the-political-labels-we-apply-to-each-other-and-ourselves/

      As a lawyer you should know that until we render them useless through continued misuse, words do have meaning. In order to call yourself a Conservative, you begin your last paragraph by rendering much of the meaning from the word Conservative.

      Conservative belief is not a “straightjacket,” but Conservativism does support real and substantial limits on government power (that is, the powers of our leaders), not just wary suspicions.

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