When I tried to play the first video, nothing happened (probably getting too many hits). So I found another source, http://75.101.208.57/topic/chief+economist.

Note that there is a lot of talk about Obamacare being an Obamatax. Ironically, the only way Justice Roberts could save Obamacare was to call Obama a liar and call his penalty a tax. Thus, we have Obama using innumerable lies to peddle costly,  unconstitutional law, and we have Justice Roberts concocting a weird legal decision that directly contradicts Obama statement that his healthcare mandate was not a tax.

Oh, what a tangled web we weave

When first we practise to deceive!

—  Walter Scott (from here)

Catholibertarian

Nearly 75% of Obamacare costs will fall on people earning $120,000 or less per year.

Democrats lied to the American people when they claimed that the mandated payment for refusal to purchase health insurance wasn’t a tax. Then, the administration argued that it was a tax before the Supreme Court. Now, they’re denying that it is a tax after Chief Justice Roberts declared the penalty payment to be a tax.

From Gateway Pundit: 

A Fraud Has Been Perpetrated On the American Citizenry

Democrats told us Obamacare was not a tax. Then they went before the Supreme Court and argued that it was a tax. Now they’re saying it’s not a tax again.
The American Spectator reported:

Critics of the majority’s decision will say for the foreseeable future that Chief Justice Roberts rewrote Obamacare to save it. Michael Carvin, who argued against Obamacare before the Supreme Court, noted dryly, “I’m glad…

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  1. Joesix – Your link, http://cdn.publicinterestnetwork.org/assets/H5Ql0NcoPVeVJwymwlURRw/Private-Roads-Public-Costs.pdf, is interesting, but I don’t need to be convinced that toll road privatization is a bad idea. Because they are too complex and too hard to monitor for fraud, waste and abuse, I don’t support anything that looks like a so-called public-private partnership. What I advocate is that the people who use a road pay for it. Government can sell bonds to finance a road. Then government can pay off the bonds with tolls. That’s complicated enough.

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    1. Thank you for your concern. We received the money we were owed, though we’ll probably have another strike as we get closer to our departure date next month since the twelve other foreign teachers before us never got their final paychecks and severance pay.

      As I mentioned before, I’m not passionate about roads or willing to interpret them as a broad example of capitalism versus socialism. Tolls are nonexistent in my home state of Arizona, and we all seem to drive along just fine (until the cops pull us over for having dark skin).

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  2. Joesix – I will answer you on Sunday in a post.

    Sorry to hear about the strike. I expect that is a bit stressful.

    When we hear about such things, often all we can do is pray for the parties involved. In this case, that includes your employer. Withholding wages is sinful. If your employer has deliberately connived to cheat you and your fellow teachers, then his soul is in danger. So I will pray for him too.

    It is something we often forget, but the crucial factor in the success of any society is how much the People respect each other’s rights. Where the People seek first and foremost their own good, it matters not how they govern themselves. No matter what system of government they pretend to use they will be a sorry lot.

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  3. joesix – If your own words are not sufficient….

    nor would I condone the needless deaths of Americans due to a lack of affordable healthcare

    I believe that logical fallacy is called a false dilemma.

    When they started their various revolutions, Communists justified their murderous regimes by claiming the necessity of class warfare. Since none of us are angels, there was just enough truth in their lies to persuade the gullible.

    What gives away the lie of such Utopian schemes is the “necessity” the increased government powers required to redistribute the wealth. Unfortunately, for some reason you find such facts convenient to ignore.

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    1. You continue to present a false choice between freedom and tyranny. Are Iceland, Italy, Finland, Canada, and Norway communist dystopias killing the rich to serve the poor?

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      1. You remind me of a child. “But Timmy’s parents let him …..”

        I have asked you repeatedly to explain the morality of Obamacare. I have asked you to show me examples of where Socialism has succeeded for any length of time. Instead, you point to neighbors in the process of destroying themselves.

        Because we have plenty of history, the destructive nature of Socialism is no longer mysterious. It is just a slow poison. It takes time for a republic to destroy itself.

        For awhile, Socialism seems to work. Public servants, use to doing the right thing, continue to do the right thing — for awhile. Slowly, however, the corruption that is redistributing the wealth — stealing — spreads its tendrils and saps and weakens their consciences.

        Here is an example. We use to pay for highways and large bridges with tolls. Then some politicians got a bright idea. Because nobody — just taxpayers — had to pay for them, they called their bright idea “freeways”. Seeing that “free” was popular, a certain Republican president popularized the concept. He built the Interstate Highway System, and state governments built more “free” roads too.

        To amusement of many, we call many “freeways” parkways. Thus, we have an old joke. Why do we park in driveways and drive on parkways? Unfortunately, that joke is not so funny anymore. Without the requirement to collect tolls to pay for roads, politicians no longer have much incentive to build roads that satisfy the people who actually use them. Instead, politicians try to make campaign donors such as developers happy. So we now park quite a bit on parkways and on interstate highways too.

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      2. I’m at a loss of how to explain why helping your fellow citizens receive access to affordable healthcare is a moral thing to do. Our past discussions about religion leads me to believe that you already think it’s moral to heal sick people. I seem to remember some story about Jesus healing lepers without concern about whether they were communists.

        If your definition of socialism is any government with a socialized healthcare system, then I have absolutely given you examples of where it has succeeded. Do you remember me mentioning Iceland, Italy, Finland, Canada, and Norway? Can you show me evidence of how they’re destroying themselves? The insurance mandate system from Obamacare actually has less government involved and has worked well enough for Belgium, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, and my current home of South Korea ( http://truecostblog.com/2009/08/09/countries-with-universal-healthcare-by-date/ ). Can you show me evidence of how they’re destroying themselves?

        I can’t claim to know about the quality of public versus private roads as I haven’t come across any freeways, parkways, or driveways in poor enough condition for me step on the breaks and interpret it as an example about capitalism and socialism. People smarter and more passionate than myself do see the pros and cons of both systems and point out that even private roads receive government subsidies ( http://cdn.publicinterestnetwork.org/assets/H5Ql0NcoPVeVJwymwlURRw/Private-Roads-Public-Costs.pdf ).

        I happen to be on strike from my private school today after finding out my employer hasn’t been paying any money into my pension, even after taking out hundreds of dollars from my paychecks. Situations like this are actually a very common occurrence for private school teachers in South Korea, but I’ve yet to read about or meet other teachers go through this at public schools. I’m not saying everything in the private sector is fueled by greed and the public sector always follows the will of the people — I’m pointing out that we shouldn’t view this healthcare debate as a stark choice between corporatism and fascism.

        Your continued assurance that universal healthcare doesn’t work despite your lack of evidence or personal experience reminds me of an overly obstinate parent. “I don’t care what Timmy, Sven, Mario, Gwen, Lars, and Mikael’s parents do. Mrs. Fox heard from Reverend Beck who heard from someone else that terrorists are poisoning the Halloween candy!”

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