REVIVING AN OLD POST=> ON POLITICAL PARTIES: WHY WE NEED CONVENTIONS

Periodically people complain about political conventions. What is the latest example? Brian Schoeneman of Common Sense provides us No good reason to make conventions more viable. As usual, we get a bunch of wimpy and whiny complaints. The table below summarizes Schoeneman’s complaints.

Schoeneman’s

“Problems” With Conventions

Another Point-of-View

Conventions are undemocratic. If you don’t like what the Republican Party is doing, join another political party.
Conventions are costly to the party. So? Where is the problem? Why should taxpayers pay to select your candidate?
Conventions are old-fashioned. We have a government to protect our rights. If the so-called old-fashion method works better, that is the one to use. 
Conventions are too much work (Schoeneman does not like driving to Richmond). If disinterested and lazy people don’t come to a convention, why is that a problem?
Democrats like primaries. We should too. When Democrats do something wrong, why should we want Republicans to imitate Democrats?
Primaries produce more viable candidates. That is an unproven assertion. Anecdotal evidence is not proof.

 

In June of 2008, I wrote a rebutal to a post written by the Loudoun Insider at Too Conservative (where, coincidentally, Schoeneman use to post). When you read this post, consider what we have suffered since the current president and Congress took office. Why would anyone think President Barack Obama and the Democrats in Congress provide evidence for the superiority of the primary system  — or for that matter, anything else? 

ON POLITICAL PARTIES: WHY WE NEED CONVENTIONS

Introduction

Loudoun Insider of Too Conservative wrote a post, Conventions Suck (no longer on-line), that I think deserves a rebuttal.  Since the comments section on Too Conservative went well off subject, I decided it best to respond here.

Mr. Insider argues that a primary election is preferable to a convention.  I disagree.  Mr. Insider chief complaint is conventions require too much effort; he prefers the ease of primaries.  He ignores the purpose served by conventions.  In fact I doubt Mr. Insider understands the purpose served by political parties. 

Mr. Insider sadly lacks a good civics education.  I suspect his parents, like most, entrusted his education too much to politicians.  To entrust the education of children to politicians is foolishness of the first class.  Hopefully, by participating in forums such as political blogs we all can begin to understand the magnitude of this problem and repair the damage.   To repair the damage, we must first review some fundamental ideas.  In this case, if we are going to understand why we need conventions, then we must first understand why we need political parties.  Then, perhaps, the role conventions play may become obvious.  Here is my contribution.

Constitutional Issues

Consider the First Amendment to the Constitution. 

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. (from here)

Note the portion I have highlighted in bold.  How does one peaceably assemble and petition the government?   How does this right have any real effect?  Is this right just about giving your congressman a petition?  I don’t think so.  I think this right ultimately is about a group of people getting together and running their own candidate for public office.  And that is what political parties do.  

Consider this definition.

A political party is a political organization that seeks to attain political power within a government, usually by participating in electoral campaigns. Parties often espouse a certain ideology and vision, but may also represent a coalition among disparate interests.   (from here)

Political parties are run by the People.  Because of the First Amendment, Congress does not even have the power to regulate such assemblies.   Can state governments regulate political parties?  Here, because the First Amendment only restricts Congress, the role of government become hazy.    What does the Constitution say?  Two amendments address the issue indirectly. 

The Ninth Amendment is not very specific.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

However, Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment forces state governments to recognizes the rights of the People.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.  (from here)

Do state governments have the right to force political parties to run primaries?  Should state governments run political primaries?  What does the Virginia Constitution say?

Section 12. Freedom of speech and of the press; right peaceably to assemble, and to petition.

That the freedoms of speech and of the press are among the great bulwarks of liberty, and can never be restrained except by despotic governments; that any citizen may freely speak, write, and publish his sentiments on all subjects, being responsible for the abuse of that right; that the General Assembly shall not pass any law abridging the freedom of speech or of the press, nor the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for the redress of grievances.   (from Article 1, Bill of Rights, here)

So in Virginia, at least, the Fourteenth Amendment is not needed.  What we need to consider is whether or not primary elections interfere with the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for the redress of grievances.

Historical Background

Why do we have primary elections?  Let consider a brief history.

The first direct primary was held in Crawford county, Pa., by the Democrats in 1842. The first state laws relating to primary elections were passed in California and New York in 1866, but until the end of the century, all primary laws passed by the states were either optional or covered only limited geographic areas. Late in the century two developments led to a mandatory statewide primary. The first was the introduction of the Australian, or secret, ballot, beginning in Massachusetts in 1888. The secret ballot meant that a voter could cast a really free, uninhibited vote in choosing party nominees. The second development was a wave of revulsion against the convention system under which—even when it was regulated by state law—political bosses and vested interests intent on personal gain used every unsavory tactic imaginable. Progressives considered the direct primary an immediate cure for these abuses. In an 1899 law, perfected in 1901, Minnesota instituted the first mandatory statewide primary system, placing the primary on the same plane as a general election and making it applicable throughout the state. By 1917 all but four states had some form of direct primary.  (from here)

Keep in mind that any political system is imperfect, and in spite of the the alleged abuses of conventions, state governments rapidly implemented a system of primary elections.  If the convention system was so corrupt, how come party bosses were unable to slow the transition to a primary election system?

Perhaps the degree of corruption was overstated, and perhaps incumbent politicians realized that primary elections would help to ensure their reelection.

From the perspective of an incumbent politician, political parties are a mixed blessing.  The political party’s label can be helpful.  It is, for example, much easier to win election as a Republican or a Democrat than as an independent.  However,  rank and file party members, particularly those willing to take the time and accept the cost and the difficulty required to attend a convention, have certain definite expectations.  Such people will quite willingly withhold their party’s nomination from an incumbent if they perceived that that incumbent has compromised their party’s cause. 

In this era, many Republicans and a few Democrats bear the label of their party in name only.  Perhaps that explains the push for open primaries.

Twenty states employ a version of the “open primary” system. Half of these require a public filing, or declaration, of party affiliation; the other half permit private declaration. Washington state went a step further with its unique “jungle” primary, in which the voter, regardless of party affiliation, could go back and forth between the major party columns to select one nominee for each office. In 2003, however, a U.S. federal court struck down the system as a violation of the rights of political parties to choose candidates for office. (from here)

Conclusion

The fact that primary elections, particularly open primaries, compromise the right of the people peaceably to assemble should be self-evident.  Everyone knows, for example, why Governor Jim Gilmore wanted a convention and why Congressmen Tom Davis wanted a primary election.  That being the case, one has to wonder why we allow the government to interfere with political parties.  My personal belief is that we are allowing ourselves to be fooled.  The fact primary elections do not include such obvious horrors as the ”smoke-filled rooms” we associate with conventions does not mean that political bosses are not abusing the rights of the People. 

Just as there are problems when government regulates religious institutions, there are also problems when government regulates political parties.  The entire point of a political party is for people of like mind to select and run the candidate of THEIR choice.  Primary elections take the decision out of the hands of the assembled People.  Primary voters are not necessarily even interested in the same cause.  A primary election simply turns the general election into runoff between the two government sanctified major party candidates.

The issue of corrupt conventions that served to provided the impetus for the primary election system is in fact little more than a red herring.  If a political party cannot run the process it uses to select its candidate in a fair and open manner, it can be punished at the polls during the general election.

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7 Responses to REVIVING AN OLD POST=> ON POLITICAL PARTIES: WHY WE NEED CONVENTIONS

  1. Lloyd the Idiot says:

    “Conventions are undemocratic. — If you don’t like what the Republican Party is doing, join another political party.”

    Sounds like an admission that conventions are, in fact, an exclusive and elitist relic.

  2. Citizen Tom says:

    Lloyd – Admission of what?!!!!! Of course, a political party is exclusive. Look up the definition.

    The goal of any political party is to advocate a cause. If you are against their cause, why would anybody want you in their political party? That is why Democrats have their party, and Republicans have their party. The Greens, Libertarians, Communists, … Anybody who wants to form a political party can form a party.
    See
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States.

    You have the right to assemble with others of like mind to advocate a cause. Why would you want the government to interfere with that right? You think that right is a relic? That is silly.

  3. local gop says:

    Lloyd,

    That’s also the same logic that lead to white primaries in the Old South…if you don’t like it, leave….

    its absurd that people in 2010 still try to pretend that conventions are at all practical. there isnt a single mention of parties in the constitution, yet Tom tries to use an obscure interpretation to justify party elites throwing an extravagant party (while lecturing on fiscal responsibility) that excludes hundreds maybe thousands of good hard working party participants (the lazy people Tom refers to) that actually have jobs and can’t just take time off to go party, and in some cases are barred from participating due to their occupation. yeah conventions are great.

  4. Citizen Tom says:

    local gop – Oh woe is me! Political parties are a big plot and too much work. Woe is me! As I said, wimpy and whiny. I suppose I also should have added ignorant. If our right to freely assemble does not cover political parties, what good is it?

    If we want to keep our freedom, then we want the law to say what the government CAN DO and what the individual CAN’T DO. And that is effectively what our Constitution says. Please read the ninth and tenth amendments. Then look at look at what our government does. One of the reasons we are going broke is that our government ignores the ninth and tenth amendments.

    If we want to keep our freedom, we have to WORK for it. That WORK is not a choice; it is just a fact of life. If we don’t WORK to protect the rights God gave us, the people working to take them from us will succeed.

  5. local gop says:

    i get that, but 1) no one is saying that there is not a right for conventions, and 2) your argument that a convention leads to a more prosperous America is unfounded. I’m not really sure where you are going with this whole thing.

    yeah those military people….”whimpy and whiny”.

  6. Citizen Tom says:

    local gop – If you think the military should be more involve in the selection of candidates, I have no problem with that. What is dead wrong is to put the GOVERNMENT in charge of the process we use to select our candidates for public office.

    Remember why people join the military. They join to protect our rights, not so they can be used as an excuse to subvert our rights.

    Why am I so disgusted with primary elections? I consider primary elections emblematic of our stupidity. When it is no secret whatsoever that men and women cannot be trusted with power, it is stupid to put the government in charge of the system we use to select our candidates for public office.

    When we have an election, what is important is that we have a good selection of candidates. When the government does not control them, political parties provide a good selection of candidates. That is because they have a great incentive. The people most interested in politics, the people who will promote the candidates, choose the candidates.

    Primary elections screw up the candidate selection process. People who don’t even share the values promoted by a political party help to choose that party’s candidates.

    For years people have complained that there was no difference between Republicans and Democrats. That perception, largely correct, developed because government stuck its nose where it does not belong. What else should we have expected? When it is in the interest of incumbents to ensure their own reelection, why expect a government controlled by the incumbents help challengers?

    Fortunately, we now see distinct differences between the parties. Why? When the more extreme party, the Democrats, insisted on radically increasing its power, opponents of the power grab (the Tea Party movement, for example) made an ALL-OUT EFFORT to seize control of the Republican Party. Otherwise, both the major parties would still look pretty much the same. Almost no public officials would be complaining about the bailouts, the stimulus bills, Obamacare, …. Even now most people worry that we will not be able to undo what the Democrats have done.

    What is the alternative to primary elections? Instead of primary elections, we need runoff elections. We need to develop a process that allows voters to feel they can vote for a dark horse (or third party) candidate without feeling they have wasted their vote.

    What the average voter cares about is the fact he or she has a genuine choice of good candidates. After the 2008 election, it should obvious the primary system did not give us such a choice.

  7. thatmrgguy says:

    I’ve advocated third party candidates for years, but always hear the same thing…you’re throwing your vote away. Well, I didn’t “throw it away”, I voted for the person who most closely matched my criteria for my elected representative. That’s why I usually vote as an independent. That way, I’m not tied to any particular political party.

    Mike

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