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		<title>By: Capri</title>
		<link>http://citizentom.com/2009/12/13/why-our-nation-is-slowly-growing-more-and-more-alarmed/#comment-17022</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Capri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Happy new year to you too, Mike. I didn&#039;t take your comment as directed at my posts, but it was one I find myself agreeing with, and I just needed to vent a little about my frustration with the complete polarization everywhere I go. It seems no one on the republican side of things is really listening or understanding what I&#039;m trying to say about what they are doing to hurt themselves and others as well. I&#039;m no Obama supporter, but I&#039;ll be among the first to debunk and warn against the spreading of any and all right-wing chain letters because of what they are, and how they are doing more to discredit people than actually help. I&#039;m feeling pretty sore at all the far-right extremism and occasional chain letters being promoted on the pro-animal ownership list I&#039;m wanting to break from, yet I&#039;m torn about doing so. I think it&#039;s coming though, and well, that just stinks. It was a good community for a long time, but now with all the rhetoric and talk of &quot;pet nazis&quot; and I am opposed to throwing that word around yet no one seems interested in listening to me about that either. I definitely don&#039;t belong in the communities that oppose the far right either, because they are left, and they embrace ideas I also reject. It&#039;s difficult being in the middle of the spctrum, more right than left, but rejecting ideas on both sides, and no one really cares about you unless you chant all the right party lines right along with them, and I just won&#039;t do that. I haven&#039;t seen birther stuff on that community yet, but if I do, that&#039;ll be it, I&#039;ll be out of there. If they&#039;d wanted to stay in touch with me, they would&#039;ve joined the one I set up that doesn&#039;t cater to far right politics or pander to the left. Just feeling a little out of sorts about it all. You just gave me an opening to vent about it a little. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy new year to you too, Mike. I didn&#8217;t take your comment as directed at my posts, but it was one I find myself agreeing with, and I just needed to vent a little about my frustration with the complete polarization everywhere I go. It seems no one on the republican side of things is really listening or understanding what I&#8217;m trying to say about what they are doing to hurt themselves and others as well. I&#8217;m no Obama supporter, but I&#8217;ll be among the first to debunk and warn against the spreading of any and all right-wing chain letters because of what they are, and how they are doing more to discredit people than actually help. I&#8217;m feeling pretty sore at all the far-right extremism and occasional chain letters being promoted on the pro-animal ownership list I&#8217;m wanting to break from, yet I&#8217;m torn about doing so. I think it&#8217;s coming though, and well, that just stinks. It was a good community for a long time, but now with all the rhetoric and talk of &#8220;pet nazis&#8221; and I am opposed to throwing that word around yet no one seems interested in listening to me about that either. I definitely don&#8217;t belong in the communities that oppose the far right either, because they are left, and they embrace ideas I also reject. It&#8217;s difficult being in the middle of the spctrum, more right than left, but rejecting ideas on both sides, and no one really cares about you unless you chant all the right party lines right along with them, and I just won&#8217;t do that. I haven&#8217;t seen birther stuff on that community yet, but if I do, that&#8217;ll be it, I&#8217;ll be out of there. If they&#8217;d wanted to stay in touch with me, they would&#8217;ve joined the one I set up that doesn&#8217;t cater to far right politics or pander to the left. Just feeling a little out of sorts about it all. You just gave me an opening to vent about it a little. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Citizen Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Citizen Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Capri and Mike - Interesting comments.  

One of the reasons with have a two-party system is that Democrats and Republicans have connived to freeze others out.  To see what I mean, you may wish to check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://citizentom.com/2009/12/22/disdain-for-democracy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DISDAIN FOR DEMOCRACY&lt;/a&gt; and its links.

Some times what the electorate perceives as a good idea, like primary elections, has unforseen consequences. That is one reason why that government which governs least governs best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capri and Mike &#8211; Interesting comments.  </p>
<p>One of the reasons with have a two-party system is that Democrats and Republicans have connived to freeze others out.  To see what I mean, you may wish to check out <a href="http://citizentom.com/2009/12/22/disdain-for-democracy/" rel="nofollow">DISDAIN FOR DEMOCRACY</a> and its links.</p>
<p>Some times what the electorate perceives as a good idea, like primary elections, has unforseen consequences. That is one reason why that government which governs least governs best.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Capri - I wasn&#039;t actually replying to your post. I was in fact replying to the entire converstation. I may not completely agree with everything you say but I DO appreciate you opinion. That appreciation of other ideas is what seperates people like you and I from the broken politicians. By the way I hope by reading my reply you didn&#039;t think that I was anti-Obama anything. He is welcome to his ideas as well. The biggest problem I have with any politician is when he is elected under a false pretense. In other words if he promises that free undercoating on your shiny new car, it better not show up in the loan. 

Cheers to a great 2010.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capri &#8211; I wasn&#8217;t actually replying to your post. I was in fact replying to the entire converstation. I may not completely agree with everything you say but I DO appreciate you opinion. That appreciation of other ideas is what seperates people like you and I from the broken politicians. By the way I hope by reading my reply you didn&#8217;t think that I was anti-Obama anything. He is welcome to his ideas as well. The biggest problem I have with any politician is when he is elected under a false pretense. In other words if he promises that free undercoating on your shiny new car, it better not show up in the loan. </p>
<p>Cheers to a great 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: Capri</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Capri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes. Just because I completely reject the misanthropic ideas of &quot;human caused climate change&quot; and animal rights which are more associated with the left than the right, doesn&#039;t mean I embrace all the right-wing and far-right politics, and that&#039;s why I&#039;m about to jump ship from yet another internet community that has pretty much outgrown its usefulness and become less about animal owners&#039; rights and more about anti-Obama everything, and a big hot anti-abortionist hangout. Well, it&#039;s egregious accusing the human race of massive evil, and making false accusations of animal abuse and ruining people&#039;s lives as a result, causing innocent people to suffer. It&#039;s just as egregious to yell &quot;Baby killer!&quot; and accuse everybody who has ever had an abortion of being Susan Smith.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Just because I completely reject the misanthropic ideas of &#8220;human caused climate change&#8221; and animal rights which are more associated with the left than the right, doesn&#8217;t mean I embrace all the right-wing and far-right politics, and that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m about to jump ship from yet another internet community that has pretty much outgrown its usefulness and become less about animal owners&#8217; rights and more about anti-Obama everything, and a big hot anti-abortionist hangout. Well, it&#8217;s egregious accusing the human race of massive evil, and making false accusations of animal abuse and ruining people&#8217;s lives as a result, causing innocent people to suffer. It&#8217;s just as egregious to yell &#8220;Baby killer!&#8221; and accuse everybody who has ever had an abortion of being Susan Smith.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Holy Moly! That was a lot of banter!

Sorry to do it but I’ve got to add my two cents - President Obama can only sign bills into laws that are produced by the legislative branch. Right? So the problem isn&#039;t completely with President Obama. Although I disagree with many of his &#039;CZAR&#039; picks. The problem is the lack of ‘checks and balances.’ The problem is that we have both a president who rings a dinner bell AND a democrat congress who then starts to drool. When there is a majority without internal disagreement that is a problem. The same would be the case if it were the republicans with a president and a majority in the house and the senate. Except in the case of President Bush who was not near as universally likeable (in speech and manner)as President Obama. Let&#039;s face it, President Obama could sell Ice to Eskimos.

If you look at the history of the two main political parties, they have changed direction with the wind. The democrats used to be more conservative than the republicans. My grandfather was a staunch conservative southern farmer and a card carrying member of the democrat party. He was proud to be that. Well as the wind shifted so did the democrats shift left while the republicans pretty much stayed were they are now (except under the Reagan years). So if these two parties are constantly shifting is the problem really with the democrats and republicans. I say no. The problem is with the two party system as a whole. When you have only two paths of thought you are politically allowed to follow, do you think any good ideas will come out of the legislative branch. What happened to free thinking? Oh sorry was that politically incorrect?

Yeah you can argue that we have other parties that show up on the ballot - The Green Party, the Libertarian Party, the Constitution Party, even the Socialist Party. But can you tell me when was the last time you&#039;ve seen any of those parties in a televised national debate? Come on! Bring in some fresh ideas and some new energized people. From my opinion, that is where our country&#039;s political system falls short. The average citizen of the United States is far better at brain storming and problem solving than any canned republican or democrat could ever hope to be. Why? Because we live and work in the trenches and not in some ivory tower looking down on the rest of us. Lets inject some common sense back in to politics and open our minds to other ideas rather than walking around with political party bags over our heads!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy Moly! That was a lot of banter!</p>
<p>Sorry to do it but I’ve got to add my two cents &#8211; President Obama can only sign bills into laws that are produced by the legislative branch. Right? So the problem isn&#8217;t completely with President Obama. Although I disagree with many of his &#8216;CZAR&#8217; picks. The problem is the lack of ‘checks and balances.’ The problem is that we have both a president who rings a dinner bell AND a democrat congress who then starts to drool. When there is a majority without internal disagreement that is a problem. The same would be the case if it were the republicans with a president and a majority in the house and the senate. Except in the case of President Bush who was not near as universally likeable (in speech and manner)as President Obama. Let&#8217;s face it, President Obama could sell Ice to Eskimos.</p>
<p>If you look at the history of the two main political parties, they have changed direction with the wind. The democrats used to be more conservative than the republicans. My grandfather was a staunch conservative southern farmer and a card carrying member of the democrat party. He was proud to be that. Well as the wind shifted so did the democrats shift left while the republicans pretty much stayed were they are now (except under the Reagan years). So if these two parties are constantly shifting is the problem really with the democrats and republicans. I say no. The problem is with the two party system as a whole. When you have only two paths of thought you are politically allowed to follow, do you think any good ideas will come out of the legislative branch. What happened to free thinking? Oh sorry was that politically incorrect?</p>
<p>Yeah you can argue that we have other parties that show up on the ballot &#8211; The Green Party, the Libertarian Party, the Constitution Party, even the Socialist Party. But can you tell me when was the last time you&#8217;ve seen any of those parties in a televised national debate? Come on! Bring in some fresh ideas and some new energized people. From my opinion, that is where our country&#8217;s political system falls short. The average citizen of the United States is far better at brain storming and problem solving than any canned republican or democrat could ever hope to be. Why? Because we live and work in the trenches and not in some ivory tower looking down on the rest of us. Lets inject some common sense back in to politics and open our minds to other ideas rather than walking around with political party bags over our heads!</p>
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