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		<title>By: Halt and Catch Fire &#187; Blog Archive &#187; An insightful discussion [CitizenTom]</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Halt and Catch Fire &#187; Blog Archive &#187; An insightful discussion [CitizenTom]]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Over the last few days, I&#8217;ve had a very productive discussion with a blogger, CitizenTom, about fundamentalism, secularism, and the role of religion in government and vice-versa.  Related posts are here (original post), here, and here. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Over the last few days, I&#8217;ve had a very productive discussion with a blogger, CitizenTom, about fundamentalism, secularism, and the role of religion in government and vice-versa.  Related posts are here (original post), here, and here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kgotthardt</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it force if we vote in the people who decide how much money to take from us?  Supposedly, government should be redistributing that money to make our lives better.  If it weren&#039;t for taxes, for example, we wouldn&#039;t have military.

Bad government wastes our taxes.  Good government uses our taxes wisely.  Good government finds creative solutions so there is a balance between what we give as tax payers and what we receive as citizens.  When that balance is disturbed, we have things like recession and legalized thievery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it force if we vote in the people who decide how much money to take from us?  Supposedly, government should be redistributing that money to make our lives better.  If it weren&#8217;t for taxes, for example, we wouldn&#8217;t have military.</p>
<p>Bad government wastes our taxes.  Good government uses our taxes wisely.  Good government finds creative solutions so there is a balance between what we give as tax payers and what we receive as citizens.  When that balance is disturbed, we have things like recession and legalized thievery.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen Tom</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 02:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kgotthardt - We each approach life in our own way.  There are Truths and there is wisdom, but God permits us to find both in our own way.  It is people who seem to be the control freaks.

I think your fears about public education are misplaced.  Sit down in a chair and consider all you the things you buy, things such as food, clothing, shelter, transportation, education, energy, and so forth.  What happens the more the government gets involved?  

We usually think of voting as a matter of electing public officials.  However, every dollar you spend is also a vote.  When you have a choice between products, that vote means something.  When you don&#039;t have a choice, all you can do is withhold your vote.  Sometimes you have to buy.  You need the product, and there is only one source.  Then you pay through the nose.

Public education is monopoly. We pay taxes to support it.  We are not even allowed the option of withholding our vote. Government takes our money by force.  What free market entrepreneur or nonprofit  can get away with that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kgotthardt &#8211; We each approach life in our own way.  There are Truths and there is wisdom, but God permits us to find both in our own way.  It is people who seem to be the control freaks.</p>
<p>I think your fears about public education are misplaced.  Sit down in a chair and consider all you the things you buy, things such as food, clothing, shelter, transportation, education, energy, and so forth.  What happens the more the government gets involved?  </p>
<p>We usually think of voting as a matter of electing public officials.  However, every dollar you spend is also a vote.  When you have a choice between products, that vote means something.  When you don&#8217;t have a choice, all you can do is withhold your vote.  Sometimes you have to buy.  You need the product, and there is only one source.  Then you pay through the nose.</p>
<p>Public education is monopoly. We pay taxes to support it.  We are not even allowed the option of withholding our vote. Government takes our money by force.  What free market entrepreneur or nonprofit  can get away with that?</p>
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		<title>By: kgotthardt</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In terms of why we are afraid of dismantling public education, my &quot;fear&quot; is that the greedy would take over, charge ridiculous rates and price the middle to lower classes right out of education.  There would be no consumer rights.  I don&#039;t trust organizations to do the right thing in this case.  I suppose this makes me cynical.

As it stands, at the very least, we can always protest and sue the government if we don&#039;t like what they are doing.  We can demand change and eventually attain it.  We can&#039;t do the same if we are under the thumb of a private entity that will just tell us to take it somewhere else.  Sometimes, there is nowhere else to go.  That&#039;s a problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In terms of why we are afraid of dismantling public education, my &#8220;fear&#8221; is that the greedy would take over, charge ridiculous rates and price the middle to lower classes right out of education.  There would be no consumer rights.  I don&#8217;t trust organizations to do the right thing in this case.  I suppose this makes me cynical.</p>
<p>As it stands, at the very least, we can always protest and sue the government if we don&#8217;t like what they are doing.  We can demand change and eventually attain it.  We can&#8217;t do the same if we are under the thumb of a private entity that will just tell us to take it somewhere else.  Sometimes, there is nowhere else to go.  That&#8217;s a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: kgotthardt</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Theoretically, all blog discussions must be personal because they are either derived from our (personal) interest or our experiences.

Belief systems and opinions are rooted in our pasts.  They don&#039;t just fall out of the sky.  This is why I believe the personal is important.  For example, I like knowing that a political candidate has been a veteran, and that is why he/she is a proponent of veterans&#039; rights.  It helps me/us to understand where this person is coming from, why he/she believes these things are important, and what he/she would like to do about the issues.  I am all about motives and the why. 

This also works in the negative.  If I am angry at those who run (and manipulate)higher education (which I have been at various times) there is usually a reason why, and those reasons are usually based on my experiences and beliefs.  Many people share these experiences.  Thus there is a common bond.

In any event, I don&#039;t expect you to answer personal questions on a blog if you don&#039;t want to.  But the above is why I bring up the question of whether or not you ever had children in public schools--I&#039;m not just trying to be nosy :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theoretically, all blog discussions must be personal because they are either derived from our (personal) interest or our experiences.</p>
<p>Belief systems and opinions are rooted in our pasts.  They don&#8217;t just fall out of the sky.  This is why I believe the personal is important.  For example, I like knowing that a political candidate has been a veteran, and that is why he/she is a proponent of veterans&#8217;rights.  It helps me/us to understand where this person is coming from, why he/she believes these things are important, and what he/she would like to do about the issues.  I am all about motives and the why. </p>
<p>This also works in the negative.  If I am angry at those who run (and manipulate)higher education (which I have been at various times) there is usually a reason why, and those reasons are usually based on my experiences and beliefs.  Many people share these experiences.  Thus there is a common bond.</p>
<p>In any event, I don&#8217;t expect you to answer personal questions on a blog if you don&#8217;t want to.  But the above is why I bring up the question of whether or not you ever had children in public schools&#8211;I&#8217;m not just trying to be nosy <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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