Comments on: COMING OUT OF THE CLOSET

By: LAURA

LAURA — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:16:50 +0000

Why you dont complaint then when you live in a house that most likely was built by illegal immigrants funny ha !! they build our houses and then we kick them out of the country for having a broken light.

By: Citizen Tom

Citizen Tom — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:29:50 +0000

hoobie — “Breaking the law is. That is all that needs to be said.” If that is all that needs to be said, then why are our immigration laws not being enforced?

The reason our immigration laws are not being enforced is that the employers responsible for breaking these laws are highly motivated. Money.

If we need a law to keep people from doing something, then when we make that law, we have to have a good reason, and we must understand that reason. Otherwise, because we will have insufficient motivation, that law will not be properly enforced.

By: hoobie

hoobie — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:06:27 +0000

You asked us to consider that Marilu Lopez is an unmarried mother working low wage jobs. That is her station in life. And, if you ask her, she probably is thankful for that compared to her prior situation in Guatemala. Is that a reason to let her stay? No. There are a lot of poor Americans who are unmarried with children who do not speak English well. These are not valid reasons for removing someone from American society. Breaking the law is. That is all that needs to be said.

Now, I agree with you regarding cheap labor, and it’s not just illegals. I’m sure you are familiar with the H1-B visa. It’s just one step up from being undocumented; in both cases the worker is at the mercy of his employer and each can be abused. H1-B visas hurt American workers by driving down wages to third world levels.

By: Citizen Tom

Citizen Tom — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:35:43 +0000

hoobie — I don’t object to Marilu Lopez “station in life”. I did not use such a term.

My concern is the stability of the society my children will inherit. When we allow greedy employers to import hordes cheap laborers just for the sake of their immediate personal profits, we endanger our ability to govern ourselves. Hordes of unskilled, poorly educated laborers cannot make a democratic capitalist society function properly. Even though they may be willing, poorly educated people do not know what they are suppose to do.

Democracy is a participatory process. Yet even now too many Americans do not engage themselves in the process of running our society. Many of these people are just too lazy, but most I suspect do not know their responsibilities.

Our schools do a lousy job. In particular, our schools do a lousy job of teaching civics. When our schools already stink, why burden them with millions of the third world’s poor? How does it further the national interest to waste money on unnecessary ESOL programs?

By: hoobie

hoobie — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:47:18 +0000

Your reasoning is faulty, but you do manage to stumble over the correct answer. Illegals are subject to deportation because they are illegal; they broke the law. Not because she is poor, or unmarried with children, or uses ESL.

We are a nation of laws and can manage immigration using the law any way we as a nation see fit.

The fact that you or anyone else objects to her station in life is meaningless.